Visual Studio Express 2013 downloads available

The Visual Studio Team shares the news that Visual Studio Express 2013 is now available for download.

Visual Studio Express 2013 provides Microsoft’s latest version of this popular free software, which allows developers to quickly and easily create applications for devices, cloud, desktop, server and game console platforms, and includes integrated debugging tools.

(While we realize that this isn’t open source software, VS is used by various developers to design Windows-based interfaces for their homebrew hardware projects and who may want a free download of the latest VS release.)

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  1. Visual Studio! one tool that does a lot of awesome jobs out of the box. True, its from MS which is hated by a lot of hobbyist (not knowing they give express edition for free). Visual Studio can never be compared to eclipse, netbeans or any other IDE (who are trying to bring in the features of Visual Studio for years and still chasing the unicorn).

    .NET – a technology largely hated by hobbyist community for the same reason, it is from MS and it is not Open Source. A proven, non-fragmented technology that is lasting 10+ years and growing stronger with the support of thousands of real world engineers around the world gets bashed because you can’t see the source code. Seriously, out of all the Open Source technologies, if you have never committed a single line into any of the projects – no body should talk about how great Open Source is. Open Source is awesome, but if you never contributed something to a project then all you worry about is “free stuff” for which it doesn’t matter it is Open Source or proprietary.

    Give it a try, may be you will get some ideas to contribute to Open Source IDE’s.

    1. Most hobbyists know that Microsoft gives a “crippled” version of VS for free. It’s fine unless you need to do real work. Check out the prices of the professional version of VS and their database software, plus the license costs. Then realize that they commonly shit on independent developers by keeping costs high, switching out APIs every couple of years and ignoring good feedback. (I do MS development for a living in my day job and have to help with the IT/development budget every year.)

      Now consider the alternatives of free editors, development tools, OSes, databases, etc…

  2. 2 SEng:

    Stop saying bollocks. People dislike .NET because it’s bloat and superfluous. It is *fragmented* technology, bloated copycat of 20-years proven Java technology. But OpenSource covers it all, and if someone wants to use .NET, they can use Mono.

    1. …or they can use .NET if they so choose. Just because something is Open Source doesn’t mean it is good, likewise just because something is Closed Source doesn’t mean it is bad. It also has to do with personal taste.

      If you want OS software that’s great! However, there are those of us out there who use both Open and Closed source and are perfectly happy with it. Gimp, in my opinion, just isn’t as good as Photoshop. Inkspace, in my opinion, isn’t as good as Illustrator. That doesn’t mean those two Open Source apps are bad, just not my favorites.

      FWIW, I don’t use .NET. I have in the past, but I prefer a few other languages instead.

    2. for the record, a lot of MS packages are open source: whole ASP.NET stack, Entity Framework, and a bunch of others
      ///rant on
      You know, that C# 1.0 was similar to java, but evolved ‘a bit’ since then?
      For example java may will have lambdas next year, if Oracle finally releases it. C# has lambdas since v3.0 (released 6 years ago).

      You know, that Oracle bought Sun, right? Hard to find a more “enterprise-y”, company than Oracle. Just check out what happened to several previously Sun-owned open source projects. OpenOffice (-> LibreOffice), MySql (several forks), Hudson (-> jenkins), …

      And ?

      ///rant off
      But yeah, non-express MS dev tools are expensive, and can’t really install extensions to express versions…

  3. Is VS useful for hacking? It is, the compiler has good diagnostics and very good debugger. Therefore yes, we want to know, announce it.
    We cannot hack its internals, however few people want to. (Actually there is documentation for some VS components and all extensibility interfaces.)
    Give it a try and you will see how much can you do without having to google everything, SEng is right.

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