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[Entry] 4049 inductance meter

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:39 pm
by NiHaoMike
All the decent multimeters nowadays seem to have a built in capacitance meter, but only a few of the really expensive ones have a built in inductance meter. Dedicated inductance (LCR) meters, of course, are also really expensive.

The solution, of course, is to build an inductance adapter for any multimeter.
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It works by generating a stream of pulses and feeding them into a LR network. (The duty cycle must be very low to allow the inductor to "reset".) Two extra inverters operate as a comparator and a RC filter converts the output to a voltage that can be read by a multimeter. A series inductor ensures that even small inductances would generate pulse widths wide enough for the circuit to work, and an offset voltage used to zero the meter.

Then I realized that rather than an adapter, what I really wanted is a standalone inductance meter. Harbor Freight recently gave out a few coupons for free multimeters (with a $10 or so minimum purchase), so I ended up getting a few of those after buying some tools. Since I have several good multimeters for actual use, it made sense to convert one of those into a standalone inductance meter.
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Complicating the design was the odd rail splitting, so I had to build a DC/DC converter to supply the circuit. I also made some optimizations to keep the current draw low in order to get acceptable battery life. It turns out that even that cheap meter has an input filter, hence the lack of it in the circuit. Finally, I cut a trace to to remove the decimal point and glued the dial in place.

Re: [Entry] 4049 inductance meter

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:46 am
by ian
Nice work, thanks for entering. Learning the basic of how to do something like C measurement is really illuminating!

Re: [Entry] 4049 inductance meter

PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:27 pm
by NiHaoMike
ian wrote:Nice work, thanks for entering. Learning the basic of how to do something like C measurement is really illuminating!

It actually measures L, but I'm sure it won't take much to modify the design to measure C. (Although capacitance measurement is of questionable use since many good multimeters have it and ESR is a better measurement of whether a capacitor is still good.)

Re: [Entry] 4049 inductance meter

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:04 am
by ian
Sorry, slip of the brain, L indeed :)

Re: [Entry] 4049 inductance meter

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:36 am
by systemstech
Schematic in Eagle 6.3.0

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Board.

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Re: [Entry] 4049 inductance meter

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:37 am
by systemstech
Schematic in Eagle 6.3.0

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Meter Mod sch by systems tech, on Flickr

Board.

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Meter Mod brd by systems tech, on Flickr

Original.

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10p3myo by systems tech, on Flickr

Re: [Entry] 4049 inductance meter

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:04 am
by systemstech
did some changes.

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Haven't added the v- rail, changed connector size. If anyone can see a problem pls let me know or correct it pls.

Re: [Entry] 4049 inductance meter

PostPosted: Thu Sep 26, 2013 3:48 pm
by astock
What is the range of this meter? Can I measure very small inductance, between 0.5uH and 2uH?

Best Regards,

F.A.Stock

Re: [Entry] 4049 inductance meter

PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:11 am
by Retrovert
Nice project and clever (ab)use of logic gates. Thanks for sharing the details.

I've seen a few interesting minimal L meters using an LM311 op-amp and the venerable 555. (Is there anything one can't do with a op-amp or a 555?) The discussion of how these things work was new to me, and I thought it might be useful to others trying to understand how the circuit works.

I tried to include two of them, but I can't post URLs yet. I'll edit this after I get approved. Sigh.