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Re: HAKKO (907ESD) and SOLOMON (SL-10/30) soldering iron dri

PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:32 pm
by pjkim
I put a short writeup of my SID build on my blog at http://hardwhack.blogspot.com/2012/06/so-i-finally-have-my-soldering-iron.html

It has a few tips for assembling/adjusting the circuit that were not entirely obvious, such as how to adjust the trim pots for the PTC amplifier. Also, I used a non zero-crossing opto-triac. The one I received from Digikey didn't work-- either born that way or I bjorked it somehow. I picked up a non zero-crossing opto-triac locally and it seems to work fine. The turn ons can be at any part of the cycle. The turn offs are at zero crossings because thats just how triacs roll. Doesn't appear to affect overall circuit function.

Re: HAKKO (907ESD) and SOLOMON (SL-10/30) soldering iron dri

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:53 am
by ian
Thanks for shaing your build, it looks like this board is ready for a small initial batch (PCB only) at Seeed. We'll need some comprehensive documentation. May we please copy some of your notes to the wiki if we attribute your site?

Re: HAKKO (907ESD) and SOLOMON (SL-10/30) soldering iron dri

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:55 am
by pjkim
Yes, of course, feel free to use whatever you would like. Let me know if I can help.

And when do we find out more about the secret project?

Re: HAKKO (907ESD) and SOLOMON (SL-10/30) soldering iron dri

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:19 am
by ian
Depends on which one. ATX is out, that was not pushed on the blog. THe other secret project is all done now, but I'm staying super tight lipped on that one :) Waiting for the quote and final boards to send in.

Re: HAKKO (907ESD) and SOLOMON (SL-10/30) soldering iron dri

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:33 pm
by olala123
Hello,arhi , I am "Soldering Iron Controller Gen2,V4.0" very interested in, because it is simple, relatively easy to DIY, but I can not find it in the entire forum firmware

Re: HAKKO (907ESD) and SOLOMON (SL-10/30) soldering iron dri

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:22 pm
by pjkim
You can find find a link to the source code on the first post of this thread on page one. It is hosted on sourceforge. If you are planning on using buttons, may I suggest my modification of arhi's firmware which adds auto repeat and more robust switch debouching. You can find it a few posts back, about June 13.

Re: HAKKO (907ESD) and SOLOMON (SL-10/30) soldering iron dri

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:26 am
by octal
I have bought a soldering iron hadle marked as to be compatible with Atten 936B (supposed to be the clone of Hakko 936). The problem is that I found that it has 7 holes instead of 5 holes. Does anyone know if it's still usable with Arhi's driver?
or is there any adaptation to do to get it to work with it? (I know from spec that it's a 24volt)

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Re: HAKKO (907ESD) and SOLOMON (SL-10/30) soldering iron dri

PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:19 am
by arhi
measure resistance between every 2 pins and report here

Re: HAKKO (907ESD) and SOLOMON (SL-10/30) soldering iron dri

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:39 pm
by Thorontir
I have just bought this soldering iron: http://www.ebay.com/itm/936-Soldering-S ... 2a1f90a9c4 (wich is the correct one for this SID, isn't it?)

Connector on the soldering iron seems to be DIN type, but there is no connector of this kind in the board, I suppose you just pick one for the case and wire that to the board, but I do not see any BOM where the connector is listed. Can anyone enlighten me?

There is more info than at sourceforge, or that is the last revision?

Thanks in advance!

Re: HAKKO (907ESD) and SOLOMON (SL-10/30) soldering iron dri

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:03 pm
by pjkim
Looks like it should work-- supposed to be Hakko 936 compatible. The DIN 5 connector is off the board. I connected the board to the DIN connectors using solder at the DIN end and screw terminals at the SID board end. This makes it easy to disconnect the board from the connector.

N.B., there are two different types of five pin DIN connectors. One with the pins spread out over 180 deg and another spread out over 240 deg. You need the 240 deg one. Another thing to watch out for is that the threaded shroud on the male connector can interfere with the body of the female connector. Just pry off the threaded shroud-- the DIN5 connector fits rather securely and will stay connected unless you pull it out.

Re: HAKKO (907ESD) and SOLOMON (SL-10/30) soldering iron dri

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:10 pm
by octal
Thank you Arhi for your support. I'll do all measures this weekend and let you know.

regards

Re: HAKKO (907ESD) and SOLOMON (SL-10/30) soldering iron dri

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:26 am
by Thorontir
pjkim wrote:N.B., there are two different types of five pin DIN connectors. One with the pins spread out over 180 deg and another spread out over 240 deg. You need the 240 deg one. Another thing to watch out for is that the threaded shroud on the male connector can interfere with the body of the female connector. Just pry off the threaded shroud-- the DIN5 connector fits rather securely and will stay connected unless you pull it out.


Thank you very much pjkim! Unfortunately for you, I have more questions ;)

Will look carefully when I order the connectors. That said, Is there a BOM for the board and/or for the elements that are "out of the board" (buttons/encoder, DIN connector, that kind of things).

And for the PCB, the CAD/CAM files in sourceforge are correct? I was thinking to send it to http://oshpark.com/ since people seem to talk very well about them...

Re: HAKKO (907ESD) and SOLOMON (SL-10/30) soldering iron dri

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:57 am
by arakis
Thorontir wrote:
pjkim wrote:N.B., there are two different types of five pin DIN connectors. One with the pins spread out over 180 deg and another spread out over 240 deg. You need the 240 deg one. Another thing to watch out for is that the threaded shroud on the male connector can interfere with the body of the female connector. Just pry off the threaded shroud-- the DIN5 connector fits rather securely and will stay connected unless you pull it out.


Thank you very much pjkim! Unfortunately for you, I have more questions ;)

Will look carefully when I order the connectors. That said, Is there a BOM for the board and/or for the elements that are "out of the board" (buttons/encoder, DIN connector, that kind of things).

And for the PCB, the CAD/CAM files in sourceforge are correct? I was thinking to send it to http://oshpark.com/ since people seem to talk very well about them...


There is a BOM for the SID v1,5 made by DP, http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Pat ... evelopment it's at the bottom of the page. It is identical to Arhi's gen3, but the part names/numbers are not the same....

If you've built it based on arhi's design, there are part values in the schematic...

Re: HAKKO (907ESD) and SOLOMON (SL-10/30) soldering iron dri

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:49 pm
by pjkim
I ordered my parts through Digikey so i could get free shipping. I did not order resistors, caps, buttons, screw terminals, etc because I had most of those on hand. There might be a few other things I left off-- I also ordered more than I need for a couple of things so I could use them for other projects, ie buck switcher IC. Here is my list:

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2  LM2574N-5GOS-ND      IC BUCK 5V 0.5A 8DIP 5V SWITCHER 0 1.78000 $3.56
2  568-3710-5-ND        TRIAC 600V 8A TO220AB 0 0.83000 $1.66
2  MCP619-I/P-ND        IC OPAMP 2.3V QUAD R-R 14DIP LOW VOLTAGE OP AMP 0 1.66000 $3.32
1  PIC18F2550-I/SP-ND   IC PIC MCU FLASH 16KX16 28DIP 0 6.56000 $6.56
10 1N4148TACT-ND        DIODE SS FAST 100V 200MA DO35 DIODE FAST 100V 0 0.05800 $0.58
2  497-7053-1-ND        DIODE SCHOTTKY 40V 1A DO-41 SCHOTTKY DIODE 0 0.57000 $1.14
1  LM385Z-2.5GOS-ND     IC VREF SHUNT 2.5V TO-92-3 2.5V REF 0 0.70000 $0.70
1  490-2888-ND          TRIMMER 5K OHM 0.5W TH 0 1.56000 $1.56
1  445-3775-1-ND        INDUCTOR 330UH .82A RADIAL 0 0.90000 $0.90
1  3306P-503-ND         TRIMMER 50K OHM 0.2W TH 0 0.42000 $0.42
1  3306P-101-ND         TRIMMER 100 OHM 0.2W TH 0 0.42000 $0.42
1  MOC3043M-ND          OPTOCOUPLER TRIAC-OUT ZC 6-DIP 0 1.32000 $1.32
1  300-8507-ND          CRYSTAL 20.000 MHZ 18PF HC49/US 0 0.63000 $0.63
1  490-2876-ND          TRIMMER 100K OHM 0.5W TH RV2 0 1.56000 $1.56
1  425-2414-ND          RELAY SSR 240VAC 16A ZC 4-SIP 0 6.26000 $6.26

Re: HAKKO (907ESD) and SOLOMON (SL-10/30) soldering iron dri

PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:08 pm
by Thorontir
Another question, sorry for the inconvenience ;)

I downloaded gerbers from Sourceforge, but oshpark complains about the files. I changed the names to fit the "rules" at that site, but seems that board outline is missing... Anyone has gerbers for that site? If not, where are the proteus files? I do not seem that, just pdfs and the gerbers that do not work with oshpark...

Thanks again guys!