Bus Pirate v3.6 (apr 2012) Seeed 10/09/13 Almost DOA

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Bus Pirate v3.6 (apr 2012) Seeed 10/09/13 Almost DOA

Postby Pieter » Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:12 am

Hi there,
Finally the Bus Pirate arived but I cant get it to work.
The red power led is on and the usb led blinks a tiny bit for some millsec and thats all. Bricked?

Selftest is not possible because putty /teratermpro wont go any furter.
Checked for right settings on two machines, same thing.

Ver 3.6 (apr 2012) on the bag: 10/09/13

Read many instructions on what to do but there seem to be many paths to take.

Should I send it back to seeed or what can you advice?

Update: For me it was a driver problem see solution here:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6052#p55827
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Re: Bus Pirate v3.6 (apr 2012) Seeed 10/09/13 Almost DOA

Postby Pieter » Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:14 am

Tested the bootloader.
When you connect the PGND and the PGC the mode LED lights up..

Output:
d:\downloads\bus pirate\BusPirate-package61\BPv3-firmware>pirate-loader.exe --dev=COM5 --hello
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Pirate-Loader for BP with Bootloader v4+
Loader version: 1.0.2 OS: WINDOWS
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Opening serial device COM5...OK
Configuring serial port settings...OK
Sending Hello to the Bootloader...ERROR
No reply from the bootloader, or invalid reply received: 4
Please make sure that PGND and PGC are connected, replug the devide and try again

Well at least I tried :-)
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Re: Bus Pirate v3.6 (apr 2012) Seeed 10/09/13 Almost DOA

Postby Samual » Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:52 am

Does windows detect the ftdi chip. A COM port should appear in Device manager. Make sure you select the right COM port and set the baud rate to 115200.

Make sure the cable you are using is not bad. Some usb cables are only ment for charging.

If yor computer detect the FTDI chip use the GUI firmware upgrade tool to upgrade the firmware. Make sure you select the correct COM port and short pins PGD and PGC.

If that does not work contact Seeed's Q.C and customer support team and ask them to send you a new one.
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Re: Bus Pirate v3.6 (apr 2012) Seeed 10/09/13 Almost DOA

Postby Pieter » Sat Dec 14, 2013 1:13 pm

Hi Samual, thank you for your quick reply!

Samual wrote:Does windows detect the ftdi chip. A COM port should appear in Device manager. Make sure you select the right COM port and set the baud rate to 115200.

Checked and looks good.
Samual wrote:Make sure the cable you are using is not bad. Some usb cables are only ment for charging.

Double checked with other cable..
Samual wrote:If yor computer detect the FTDI chip use the GUI firmware upgrade tool to upgrade the firmware. Make sure you select the correct COM port and short pins PGD and PGC.

Initiating download...
Searching for bl . (discarded null byte)
Found unknown device id(0) fw ver. 0.0.0
Tx 1 byte / Rx 3 bytes / 0,3s

Samual wrote:If that does not work contact Seeed's Q.C and customer support team and ask them to send you a new one.

Think I should do that....
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Re: Bus Pirate v3.6 (apr 2012) Seeed 10/09/13 Almost DOA

Postby kamcm » Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:44 am

Pieter wrote:Hi Samual, thank you for your quick reply!

Samual wrote:Does windows detect the ftdi chip. A COM port should appear in Device manager. Make sure you select the right COM port and set the baud rate to 115200.

Checked and looks good.
Samual wrote:Make sure the cable you are using is not bad. Some usb cables are only ment for charging.

Double checked with other cable..
Samual wrote:If yor computer detect the FTDI chip use the GUI firmware upgrade tool to upgrade the firmware. Make sure you select the correct COM port and short pins PGD and PGC.

Initiating download...
Searching for bl . (discarded null byte)
Found unknown device id(0) fw ver. 0.0.0
Tx 1 byte / Rx 3 bytes / 0,3s

Samual wrote:If that does not work contact Seeed's Q.C and customer support team and ask them to send you a new one.

Think I should do that....



the main reason is the counterfeit FT232RL.
The marking on the counterfeit FT232RL is CN480661

More info: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5947&start=15#p55660
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Re: Bus Pirate v3.6 (apr 2012) Seeed 10/09/13 Almost DOA

Postby Pieter » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:09 am

Just to let everyone know that Seeed customer support is on top of it.
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Re: Bus Pirate v3.6 (apr 2012) Seeed 10/09/13 Almost DOA

Postby Pieter » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:10 am

Hi there all,

One step further. This morning I booted into Crunchbang (Debian flavour) to see what the BP would do.
To my surprise it worked!

Looked into /dev/ and noticed ttyUSB0

So I tried:
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screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200

And there it was.. a working terminal prompt..

Now the question: Why does it work on Cruncbang and not on windows 8.1, windows 7 and windows Vista?
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Re: Bus Pirate v3.6 (apr 2012) Seeed 10/09/13 Almost DOA

Postby hlipka » Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:55 am

Maybe its really a counterfeit chip. Can you check the VID/PID reported by dmesg for that device?
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Re: Bus Pirate v3.6 (apr 2012) Seeed 10/09/13 Almost DOA

Postby Pieter » Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:35 am

Hope this is what you asked for:

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[ 1367.809351] usb 2-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 4 using ehci_hcd
[ 1368.279438] usb 2-1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=0403, idProduct=6001
[ 1368.279445] usb 2-1.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[ 1368.279450] usb 2-1.1: Product: FT232R USB UART
[ 1368.279453] usb 2-1.1: Manufacturer: FTDI
[ 1368.279456] usb 2-1.1: SerialNumber: A90N7D1D
[ 1368.448952] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial
[ 1368.448962] USB Serial support registered for generic
[ 1368.448984] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic
[ 1368.448985] usbserial: USB Serial Driver core
[ 1368.466955] USB Serial support registered for FTDI USB Serial Device
[ 1368.467006] ftdi_sio 2-1.1:1.0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
[ 1368.467031] usb 2-1.1: Detected FT232RL
[ 1368.467033] usb 2-1.1: Number of endpoints 2
[ 1368.467034] usb 2-1.1: Endpoint 1 MaxPacketSize 64
[ 1368.467036] usb 2-1.1: Endpoint 2 MaxPacketSize 64
[ 1368.467037] usb 2-1.1: Setting MaxPacketSize 64
[ 1368.467870] usb 2-1.1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[ 1368.467895] usbcore: registered new interface driver ftdi_sio
[ 1368.467897] ftdi_sio: v1.6.0:USB FTDI Serial Converters Driver
[ 3124.073323] intel ips 0000:00:1f.6: MCP limit exceeded: Avg temp 9001, limit 9000
[ 3129.060719] intel ips 0000:00:1f.6: MCP limit exceeded: Avg temp 9050, limit 9000
[ 3134.048131] intel ips 0000:00:1f.6: MCP limit exceeded: Avg temp 9121, limit 9000
[ 3139.035522] intel ips 0000:00:1f.6: MCP limit exceeded: Avg temp 9175, limit 9000
[ 3144.022916] intel ips 0000:00:1f.6: MCP limit exceeded: Avg temp 9039, limit 9000
[16819.594906] usb 2-1.1: USB disconnect, device number 4
[16819.595076] ftdi_sio ttyUSB0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
[16819.595097] ftdi_sio 2-1.1:1.0: device disconnected
[20022.752104] usb 2-1.1: new full-speed USB device number 5 using ehci_hcd
[20023.222296] usb 2-1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=0403, idProduct=6001
[20023.222303] usb 2-1.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[20023.222308] usb 2-1.1: Product: FT232R USB UART
[20023.222311] usb 2-1.1: Manufacturer: FTDI
[20023.222314] usb 2-1.1: SerialNumber: A90N7D1D
[20023.269726] ftdi_sio 2-1.1:1.0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
[20023.269774] usb 2-1.1: Detected FT232RL
[20023.269778] usb 2-1.1: Number of endpoints 2
[20023.269782] usb 2-1.1: Endpoint 1 MaxPacketSize 64
[20023.269785] usb 2-1.1: Endpoint 2 MaxPacketSize 64
[20023.269788] usb 2-1.1: Setting MaxPacketSize 64
[20023.270622] usb 2-1.1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[20941.843507] usb 2-1.1: USB disconnect, device number 5
[20941.843679] ftdi_sio ttyUSB0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
[20941.843701] ftdi_sio 2-1.1:1.0: device disconnected


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pieter@crunchbang:~$ lsusb | grep -i ft
Bus 002 Device 006: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 USB-Serial (UART) IC
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Re: Bus Pirate v3.6 (apr 2012) Seeed 10/09/13 Almost DOA

Postby Samual » Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:50 am

I guess you have not installed the right driver on windows or you settings for putty are wrong. It should work on windows 7. Well there is noting wrong with your BPv3.6
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Re: Bus Pirate v3.6 (apr 2012) Seeed 10/09/13 Almost DOA

Postby Pieter » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:00 am

If thats the case then the docs point to the wrong drivers..

As advised on this page: http://dangerousprototypes.com/2009/07/ ... irate-101/

I installed the drivers from this page:
http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm

If anyone could point me to the right drivers for windows 8.1, windows 7 and windows Vista it would make me very happy :-)
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Re: Bus Pirate v3.6 (apr 2012) Seeed 10/09/13 Almost DOA

Postby Pieter » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:46 am

Hi all,

This problem seems to be related to the latest drivers (2.08.30) at the FTDI website..

I went into Device Manager and removed the Serial port and Serial Converter (I Checked the box to also remove the drivers from the drive). Also some drivers are hidden so you need to click on "view": "show hidden drivers" to make sure you remove all "serial port" and "Serial Converter" drivers.

Then I installed the older version 2.08.28.

Now I got it running on Windows 8.1

Maybe a moderator can change the topic to fixed?
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Re: Bus Pirate v3.6 (apr 2012) Seeed 10/09/13 Almost DOA

Postby Pieter » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:36 am

Same for windows 7.

It is a crime to get rid of the 2.08.30 drivers and install the 2.08.28 version for the serial port and converter.

But now the Bus Pirate (an me) are happy.. '

Tomorrow I will do the same on the Vista laptop but I guess that will be the same trick.
:-)
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Re: Bus Pirate v3.6 (apr 2012) Seeed 10/09/13 Almost DOA

Postby Samual » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:58 am

How many Windows machine do you have ? Why do you use Windows Vista ?

You must be one of the few Windows Fans on dangerousprototypes.com
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Re: Bus Pirate v3.6 (apr 2012) Seeed 10/09/13 Almost DOA

Postby Pieter » Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:14 pm

We have a few machines here.. Most of them have Crunchbang and Windows 8. All default grub to windows.

We use the vista laptop for testing. It has older versions of Firefox, Chrome, opera, safari and Iexplorer on it. That way we wont be surprised if clients with older setups see stuff different.

Not a real fan, just a user.. :-)
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