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Reply #405 –
Can somebody point me to the sample code or manual on how to use both heads at the same time?

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Reply #406 –
You only need to put a line for head one and two interleaving so the machine picks one then head two and places both.

1,1,12,64.88,4.26,0,0.50,0,R11,10R
2,2,17,71.66,65.55,0,1.70,0,C22,10uF/35V

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Reply #407 –
Hi Micheal,

On the SMT50 you mentioned getting new software for the cameras? Could you share what you are using?

Do you know if this machine will place 0402s?

Thanks Dan

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Reply #408 –
Hi Dan,
the software is now running well.
The nozzle changer has some tolerance so the accuracy maybe not good enough for 0402 parts.
But I need to test.
I think the 0402 parts will work but we show a new machine soon which could place 0402 well.
We use 2 placement heads using Samsung nozzles and two separate  push feeder on each side.
Stay tuned.

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Reply #409 –
Michael,

Your contribution to this topic has been very helpful!  I'm very interested in your SMT700 but I need something now-- I can't wait until next year.  So I'm planning to purchase an SMT50 in a few days, and I'm wondering about the learning curve.  Sunny referred me to the software tutorial videos on YOUKU but they are all in Chinese, so not much help.  Is the software fairly intuitive to use for someone who has never used a pick and place machine before?  The TM240 videos are a lot better, but I want vision alignment and PC control (as opposed to embedded control) so that's why I'm considering the SMT50...

Carl

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Reply #410 –
I'm the proud owner of an SMT50 which arrived a few days ago. Gradually working my way up the learning curve which is definitely quite steep. That's okay - never expected it would be otherwise. I've been doing quite a bit of translation of the software, adding missing strings and improving some of the translations already there. I don't speak Mandarin unfortunately but Bing Translate is my friend. I will start to publish these changes on GitHub soon and will post a link when I do.

As for the videos - they're all in Mandarin and demo the software also using Mandarin. While I think I can work it all out without actually understanding what's said, I'm going to get them transcribed into English (hopefully not too costly) and publish that info too. Not sure how long that bit will take. Stay tuned.

In the meantime, very interested in what other people have experience with this machine.

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Reply #411 –
Putting relevant info here: https://github.com/aanon4/SMT50

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Reply #412 –
Does anyone have experience with the CHMT36 from Charmhigh CNC ($4,380 on AliExpress)?  They claim it is an upgraded version of the TM240A.

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Reply #413 –
[quote author="ideaman"]Does anyone have experience with the CHMT36 from Charmhigh CNC ($4,380 on AliExpress)?  They claim it is an upgraded version of the TM240A.[/quote]

CHMT36 review is no good:
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=6772

I was going to buy it, but ended up getting TM240A

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Reply #414 –
@Andy123:  thanks for steering me clear of the CHMT36.  I have a feeling the takeup reel problem he encountered could be solved with some fiddling, but I didn't want to take a chance.

@Tim:  I've taken the plunge and ordered an SMT50 after considering all of the input from you and Michael--  thanks!

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Reply #415 –
@ideaman - jolly good. I'll keep posting to my blog as I work with mine. Will be very interested in your experiences.

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Reply #416 –
I'm a little confused about the camera and tray options for the SMT50.  Does it come with one camera, and a second (upward-looking) camera is optional?  Does it come with one tray and a second tray is optional?

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Reply #417 –
I just got TM240A directly from Neoden.
I was able to get first run in couple hours and it looks like solid machine.

But I am still getting a lot of dropped and misaligned parts that I have to figure out.

My main concern is that it only have 21 8mm tapes.
Changing tapes is a pain, but keeping multiple jobs is not possible because of it has very limited number of tapes.
I am considering to sell it as soon as I see a reliable replacer machine with 50+ tapes.

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Reply #418 –
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I'm a little confused about the camera and tray options for the SMT50. Does it come with one camera, and a second (upward-looking) camera is optional? Does it come with one tray and a second tray is optional?

The system has as default two cameras on top and one bottom camera.
You can add es second bottom camera having a different focal length ( magnification).


Regards
Michael

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Reply #419 –
I am about to buy an SMT50 machine from HotHotSMT and have a couple of questions on it regarding the supplied software. I'm brand new to pick and place machines, we have been hand placing components on our boards  and this would be a huge step forward for us.

So, a few questions for supertronic and timw (or any other SMT50 users here)

1 - Does the supplied software have to run in win xp? Or would win 7 be better?

2 - I have very limited programming skills so I'm not really able to hack the software, can it be used as is?

3 - I designed our pcb's and boards gerber's in Cadsoft Eagle, can we produce pick and place files that can be used with the SMT50 software? I'm looking at using mountsmd.ulp to generate component place date from Eagle - can I import this data directly to the software  or will it need lots of editing before or afterwards?

4 - I've had a look at translation files kindly provided on github by timw, do I just replace the relevant .ini files in the software with these and it improves the english translations from chinese?

Thanks in advance for any replies!
Allan