Title: China DIY PNP Machine
Post by: phangmoh on March 12, 2016, 09:46:43 am
Post by: phangmoh on March 12, 2016, 09:46:43 am
Have been checking many machine for the past 1 year including a trip to Neodentech's factory in Hangzhou looking for a suitable affordable machine. As an avid Taobao frequent buyer, I stumbled upon other machine like Yushengtech and Boreytech just to name a few. But, I believe there's more than all these commercial desktop machine hidden somewhere in China waiting to be discovered. I just couldn't believe that with all the advancement in China, they don't have one do it yourself kinda machine, at least. So, I continue my search...
I started to see like parts and pieces of pick and places like motors, frames, pickup heads, and even good looking software. Further search using my non-Chinese capable skill set (you have to iterate your Taobao search by inserting some Chinese characters along the way to fine tune your results), I stumbled upon oursmt.com. I saw some of their parts being sold on Taobao and hopefully entered the domain "oursmt.com". I guess I found probably the first DIY pick and place machine in China that probably has some documentation.
The machine does like taking some industrial standard feeders in (or some imitation version of it, saw some at RMB100 for 8mm ones). And this particular machine has vision, maximum 30 feeders, uses aluminum extrusion, external pump, software runs on a PC (saw some video running on XP, sure rings some bell here, go figure). I'm not sure what other specification they have on the machine(s). And they are selling it for RMB8800 (~USD1350) without any feeders and without external pump. They are even selling them in batches (like group order), only 20 unit per time. But, the machine sure does look like a OpenPnP machine variation at a glance, how different can they be after all?
Has anyone came across this machine?
Probably it's time to get my butt back to China and look for them!
I started to see like parts and pieces of pick and places like motors, frames, pickup heads, and even good looking software. Further search using my non-Chinese capable skill set (you have to iterate your Taobao search by inserting some Chinese characters along the way to fine tune your results), I stumbled upon oursmt.com. I saw some of their parts being sold on Taobao and hopefully entered the domain "oursmt.com". I guess I found probably the first DIY pick and place machine in China that probably has some documentation.
The machine does like taking some industrial standard feeders in (or some imitation version of it, saw some at RMB100 for 8mm ones). And this particular machine has vision, maximum 30 feeders, uses aluminum extrusion, external pump, software runs on a PC (saw some video running on XP, sure rings some bell here, go figure). I'm not sure what other specification they have on the machine(s). And they are selling it for RMB8800 (~USD1350) without any feeders and without external pump. They are even selling them in batches (like group order), only 20 unit per time. But, the machine sure does look like a OpenPnP machine variation at a glance, how different can they be after all?
Has anyone came across this machine?
Probably it's time to get my butt back to China and look for them!
Title: Re: China DIY PNP Machine
Post by: slavka012 on March 14, 2016, 02:38:59 am
Post by: slavka012 on March 14, 2016, 02:38:59 am
Dude it is all in Chinese, how do you navigate this oursmt.com?
Title: Re: China DIY PNP Machine
Post by: phangmoh on March 14, 2016, 05:43:32 am
Post by: phangmoh on March 14, 2016, 05:43:32 am
I just Google translate it. No other way around unless you can read.
Title: Re: China DIY PNP Machine
Post by: slavka012 on March 16, 2016, 07:35:37 pm
Post by: slavka012 on March 16, 2016, 07:35:37 pm
Another store for basic rail systems:
http://www.mdc-smt.co.jp/goodsindex3.htm (http://www.mdc-smt.co.jp/goodsindex3.htm)
http://www.mdc-smt.co.jp/goodsindex3.htm (http://www.mdc-smt.co.jp/goodsindex3.htm)
Title: Re: China DIY PNP Machine
Post by: supertronic on March 17, 2016, 07:37:05 pm
Post by: supertronic on March 17, 2016, 07:37:05 pm
Hi,
oursmt was the supplier of the SMT50 machine controller and software.
The software was not bad but the vision system was mostly useless so take care!
You need Chinese region settings to run the software.
I can help to get the software running.
Best regards
Michael
oursmt was the supplier of the SMT50 machine controller and software.
The software was not bad but the vision system was mostly useless so take care!
You need Chinese region settings to run the software.
I can help to get the software running.
Best regards
Michael
Title: Re: China DIY PNP Machine
Post by: phangmoh on March 18, 2016, 09:10:36 am
Post by: phangmoh on March 18, 2016, 09:10:36 am
Quote
oursmt was the supplier of the SMT50 machine controller and software.
That's why I saw the SMT50 in one of the videos! The software looks familiar.
But, have you seen their newer machines that has feeders like those on expensive machine?
Title: Re: China DIY PNP Machine
Post by: supertronic on March 19, 2016, 08:39:35 am
Post by: supertronic on March 19, 2016, 08:39:35 am
Sorry no oursmt always talked about building a machine but I never saw.
We are currently building a mid range machine using yamaha feeder up to 120 x 8mm feeder on two sides.
But you should know each feeder line increase the machine costs by 150USD minimum.
We are currently building a mid range machine using yamaha feeder up to 120 x 8mm feeder on two sides.
But you should know each feeder line increase the machine costs by 150USD minimum.
Title: Re: China DIY PNP Machine
Post by: phangmoh on March 19, 2016, 01:30:06 pm
Post by: phangmoh on March 19, 2016, 01:30:06 pm
That's what I envision. Using a market ready feeder rather than making one. Yamaha feeder is cheap and readily available either new or 2nd hand like RMB400. So, it could look like the oursmt machine at the end.