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Dangerous Prototypes => Bus Pirate Support => Topic started by: schazamp on September 08, 2012, 03:16:45 am

Title: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 08, 2012, 03:16:45 am
I wanted a BPv4, and I thought I'd update it for the 'Sick of Beige' case series.

I chose the DP6037 footprint.  I had to bring the IO connector in a bit, but otherwise, it fit pretty well.  I had to move a few vias and things near the keepout areas, as well.  I updated the date (2012 Sept from 2010 Jun) and updated the version number (4v2 from 4v1).  The IO connector will be right near the edge, but I don't know how much clearance will be needed between the board and the top of any case in order to make the push buttons accessible.  It probably needs some further refinement.

I'm thinking of making a Seeed Fusion order.  PM me if you would be interested in a spare PCB, if I have any.

Caveat:  These files are in Eagle 6.2.0 format.

[edit: deleted attachments, should have found ones in SVN instead]
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: arakis on September 10, 2012, 09:28:04 am
[quote author="schazamp"]I wanted a BPv4, and I thought I'd update it for the 'Sick of Beige' case series.

I chose the DP6037 footprint.  I had to bring the IO connector in a bit, but otherwise, it fit pretty well.  I had to move a few vias and things near the keepout areas, as well.  I updated the date (2012 Sept from 2010 Jun) and updated the version number (4v2 from 4v1).  The IO connector will be right near the edge, but I don't know how much clearance will be needed between the board and the top of any case in order to make the push buttons accessible.  It probably needs some further refinement.

I'm thinking of making a Seeed Fusion order.  PM me if you would be interested in a spare PCB, if I have any.

Caveat:  These files are in Eagle 6.2.0 format.[/quote]

Great work, although there already is a dp6037 BP v4 available in our SVN. the v4c is on a sick of beige board. And it should be coming when the next batch of BP v4s comes out. There will also be a case design to go along with it.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ian on September 10, 2012, 05:05:03 pm
Yups - please take a look at v4.c or v4.1 - everythign between v3.6 and v4 is perfectly aligned so cases with light pipes, etc can all be reused between versions.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 10, 2012, 05:13:00 pm
Ah, I didn't think to check the SVN, just the blog and the wiki.

Thanks for the heads up, I'll ditch this design and start with the one I find there.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 12, 2012, 05:37:51 pm
So it turns out I was making this based on the latest boards in the 'Bus Pirate' SVN repo ( http://code.google.com/p/the-bus-pirate ... dware%2Fv4 (http://code.google.com/p/the-bus-pirate/source/browse/#svn%2Ftrunk%2Fhardware%2Fv4) ), but there already was a Sick of Beige version (v4c) in the 'Dangerous Prototypes' SVN repo (http://code.google.com/p/dangerous-prot ... dware%2Fv4 (http://code.google.com/p/dangerous-prototypes-open-hardware/source/browse/#svn%2Ftrunk%2FBus_Pirate%2Fhardware%2Fv4)).  Whoops.

So, forget my version, please, it is nothing special, and doesn't necessarily match the footprints of the others (in terms of LED, switch, and connector position).  Nevertheless, I want to order a batch of canonical v4c PCBs, which I can send to anyone for $4 or $5.

Options:  If we want them to be red, it will be $5, if green is okay, $4.
I might be able to panelize them, if enough people are interested, which will also help lower the cost.  This means I'll have to cut them on my band saw, which may slightly affect the quality of the nice rounded edge (since I'm not a CNC machine).

Feel free to debate the color here, I will assume green unless, overwhelmingly, people want red.

PM me if you're interested, and let me know what colors are okay, and whether a panelized version is okay.

I would like to get the order out in the next week or so.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: neslekkim on September 13, 2012, 02:41:12 pm
Could be very interresting, but how about sourcing the parts?, I guess for me it would be kinda expensive to get the parts alone for this one?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 13, 2012, 03:08:53 pm
There have been a lot of questions about international shipping.  I will be sending the boards international air mail, first class, n a envelope taped to some cardstock.  The cost difference is surprisingly small, and I'm willing to eat it. 

This approach doesn't work for sending more then two boards, though.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: dolabra on September 13, 2012, 04:07:05 pm
Color is not a big deal to me. 

I suppose we could look at a group parts order, I suspect the number of parts ordered wouldn't be enough to make it a huge difference in the cost.  But it might worth doing the sums.

How many boards are you going to order?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: papo on September 14, 2012, 01:18:19 pm
Hello

[quote author="dolabra"]
I suppose we could look at a group parts order, I suspect the number of parts ordered wouldn't be enough to make it a huge difference in the cost.  But it might worth doing the sums.
[/quote]

I order from digikey about twice a month for a whole lab so a group order is not all that relevant to me, but keep in mind that high shipping fees may apply if you order small quantities (i.e. below some threshold at which free shipping applies). Therefore a group order may be interesting to some. On the other hand, splitting up the group order can be quite a pain...

Regards

Matt
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: sph on September 15, 2012, 10:36:56 am
Sorry schazamp if I have not responded to PMs. My account was purged by the boards anti-spam mechanism since I created an account and did not post within 24 hours. This should fix that. :-)

Sebastian
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: b3niup on September 15, 2012, 12:42:09 pm
[quote author="sph"]Sorry schazamp if I have not responded to PMs. My account was purged by the boards anti-spam mechanism since I created an account and did not post within 24 hours. This should fix that. :-)

Sebastian[/quote]

Yeah I had same problem, so if You've replied to my msg, schazamp, then please send it again.

And I'm into group digikey order since It'd be hard for me to buy this parts with exact footprint here.
But I'd rather buy selected parts only than all of them ;)
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 15, 2012, 03:46:52 pm
I will look into a BOM at Mouser or Digikey, but I already have most of the parts I need, and trying to coordinate a group order (esp. if different people want different parts) is more complexity than I'm prepared to commit to now.

I have about 22 folks interested, so I will be ordering 30 boards (or maybe 40, if I can fit them), and there are enough to order red, if I panelize them and cut them myself, at $4 each, shipped.  There will be a few extras, so I can take a few more orders; I'll post when I'm out.

For those who prefer non-home-cut, I'll be PMing you to make sure you still want in.

I'll let you all know the payment info, with a reminder when I'm ready to ship.

Thanks for chipping in!
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: mati on September 15, 2012, 11:11:51 pm
Red is nicer, but it doesn't really matter for me. Also home cut is OK.

Thank you schazamp!

PS. about the payment - what are the options? International bank transfer will cost more than the board. So paypal?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 15, 2012, 11:45:36 pm
Paypal is fine, will send info.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: dolabra on September 16, 2012, 06:28:01 pm
https://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/P ... ef2ffc3a56 (https://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=ef2ffc3a56)

I made a cart.  It is likely to have mistakes.  I am unsure if the tact switch will fit.  Also not sure about the PNPs and if the shrouded header is correct.  And probably a few other things I don't remember :)

scaling it up by 30 saves $4 each, which barely justifies re-shipping things out.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: mati on September 17, 2012, 11:58:59 am
[quote author="dolabra"]https://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=ef2ffc3a56

I made a cart.  It is likely to have mistakes.  I am unsure if the tact switch will fit.  Also not sure about the PNPs and if the shrouded header is correct.  And probably a few other things I don't remember :)

scaling it up by 30 saves $4 each, which barely justifies re-shipping things out.[/quote]




you put resistor 51.1K istead of 1.1K

(I followed the table on this page: http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Bus ... n_overview (http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Bus_Pirate_v4_design_overview) )
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: matseng on September 17, 2012, 02:15:41 pm
[quote author="dolabra"]scaling it up by 30 saves $4 each, which barely justifies re-shipping things out.[/quote]

Unless you're re-shipping overseas.  Digikey & Mouser have a minimum shipping charge of $40 for shipping to my part of the world. Regular USPS postage for this would probably be like $3-$4 or so....
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: Thorontir on September 17, 2012, 03:45:07 pm
Yes, I have just looked at shipping... To Spain, it will cost me 13.85€ (Maybe half that, I have some PIC24 here) and shipping costs are 20€
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: b3niup on September 17, 2012, 08:12:00 pm
40€ for shipping to Poland...
That's why I'd like to get parts with board.
Most expensive ones I've already got, tho.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 17, 2012, 08:38:14 pm
Hm, I didn't realize shipping fees for overseas orders were such a problem for you guys.

I'm kind of averse to taking on the risk of adding the parts orders along with the PCB -- it will mean more expensive shipping, and a lot of complexity, not to mention a lot of work.  And a lot of hassle if I screw something up.

By the time you add the extra cost, you start approaching the cost of buying one at Seeed, with a lot more risk (though they don't have the Sick-of-Beige version in yet).  I'll have to try and figure what it would cost to make it worth it, and then you'll all have to tell me what parts you want.

Some folks have asked about soldering and programming the PIC.  I might be willing to do that, too, at some additional cost.  Who might be interested?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on September 17, 2012, 10:10:07 pm
Is that the reason because I mostly buy electronic components on ebay. The only component i'm having trouble to find is the small crystal.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: neslekkim on September 17, 2012, 10:15:42 pm
Same here, if I have to order from both digikey and mouser, it will be $30 from each in shipping, but if everything can be found at mouser, I have planned to buy the new stm discovery board when it comes in an month or two..
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: Thorontir on September 17, 2012, 10:30:35 pm
Well, I will find ways to get the components, just telling about problems out there ;) So, for me, just boards. Have ICD2 and various pickits here, and ICD3 and PM3 at work, so programming should not be a problem :) Nor soldering, even if this it's the first time i go 0603 instead of 0805.

Thanks for the effort, schazamp!
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: b3niup on September 18, 2012, 01:15:37 am
Yeah, thanks for the effort!
I'd like to get few parts and programmed ic with pcb, but if it's a problem, then I'll handle it on my own.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: neslekkim on September 19, 2012, 12:05:58 am
just an quickie, is this board designed so this excact case will fit it? http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/bus-pi ... th=178_184 (http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/bus-pirate-v36-acrylic-case-v1-dp6037-p-1229.html?cPath=178_184)
I don't have access to lasercutters.. so if it fits, how can I pay one if there are any left?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 19, 2012, 02:52:01 pm
So I've put together the panel, the gerbers I plan to submit (unless there are any corrections) are attached.

As you can see, in order to make them all fit, I had to rotate some of them.  The DP logo does not rotate well, either doing it within Eagle before running the CAM processor, or afterwards by gerbmerge.  (or it's a bug with GerberLogix, but I'm not holding by breath for that).  If it will kill you to have a board with a sorry-looking logo on the back, then let me know, and I'll try to send you one of the nicer-looking ones.

I still haven't decided about the part kits.  I have to order a few things (crystal, mainly, and r-networks) for myself.  Please PM me if you would be interested in some or all of the parts, and let me know which ones you want.  Based on that, I'll try and figure out if I can make it work.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: neslekkim on September 19, 2012, 04:09:12 pm
the bom that is created earlier, do anyeone know if it is correct?, at least, there are an 51.1 resistor that should be 1.1 I guess, but I cannot find any partlist other than on the wikipage, and is that correct for the c revision of the board?
And, are micro and mini usb sockets pin and size compatible? (I want to solder on an micro if it fits)

and, the resistors on the partlist suggests %5 tolerances on the resistors, but the BOM created, suggests %1, would that matter much? (I have ordered an 0603 smd book, and that is %5.. )
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 19, 2012, 04:54:38 pm
Re: the 51.1 resistor - that's a sense resistor going into VBUS from VUSB.  The datasheet has it at 100K.  I don't know how much 51.1k would hurt, but it would be nice if the BOM were correct.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: neslekkim on September 19, 2012, 05:01:57 pm
but the list here doesn't mention any 51.1? http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Bus ... n_overview (http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Bus_Pirate_v4_design_overview)
or is that one wrong? (I havent installed any software to read those designfiles, are there more info in those ? )
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 19, 2012, 05:16:20 pm
I think it was a mistake in the original BOM that dolabra put together.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: systemstech on September 19, 2012, 05:18:59 pm
[quote author="schazamp"]The DP logo does not rotate well, either doing it within Eagle before running the CAM processor, or afterwards by gerbmerge.  (or it's a bug with GerberLogix, but I'm not holding by breath for that).  If it will kill you to have a board with a sorry-looking logo on the back, then let me know, and I'll try to send you one of the nicer-looking ones.[/quote]

I was able to process the gerbers with veiwmate and this is the output.
(http://http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8030/8003265867_a891deb944.jpg) (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/79192364@N07/8003265867/)
Bus Pirate v4c (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/79192364@N07/8003265867/) by systems tech (http://http://www.flickr.com/people/79192364@N07/), on Flickr

It looks like veiwmate hasn't messed up the logo.

Ernie
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on September 19, 2012, 05:20:40 pm
when are you going to send the boards to seeed?. Are you going to ask for 100% e-test?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: systemstech on September 19, 2012, 05:29:11 pm
The many times I've ordered from Seeed they always do 100% e-test without asking for it.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on September 19, 2012, 05:30:23 pm
well, on the Fusion Service look that you have to pay 10 extra dollars to have 100%e-test.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: systemstech on September 19, 2012, 05:33:36 pm
You are right but I've been lucky I guess so far.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 19, 2012, 05:36:34 pm
I will do 100% e-test.

I am planning to send the order out later today, or tomorrow.  I have some other panels to put together to go with it.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on September 19, 2012, 05:38:31 pm
and for the color, it's gonna be red?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: neslekkim on September 19, 2012, 05:39:39 pm
since this isn't an official board.. maybe color isn't so important?, not for me anyway.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 19, 2012, 05:43:26 pm
I will order red boards.  I have a few other batches of green going out at the same time, same size, so I will do my best to make sure Seeed knows to make *this* board red.  I hope you will all forgive me if I mess that up somehow.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on September 19, 2012, 05:47:26 pm
schazamp, don't worry, you are already making  us a great favor.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: systemstech on September 19, 2012, 05:49:07 pm
To bad I really wanted my board to be purple. LoL http://http://oshpark.com/
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: Thorontir on September 19, 2012, 05:49:27 pm
[quote author="ginpb"]schazamp, don't worry, you are already making  us a great favor.[/quote]

Same here. :)
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on September 19, 2012, 05:53:19 pm
[quote author="systemstech"]To bad I really wanted my board to be purple. LoL http://http://oshpark.com/[/quote]
Yes, the boards from oshpark are amazing.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: systemstech on September 19, 2012, 05:57:13 pm
Great quality too, but you can't beat Seeed's price and quantity.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 20, 2012, 01:14:03 am
I found another mistake on the BOM, I believe the package for the 4066 switch should be (T?)SSOP, not SOIC.  The original SOIC is correct for the BPv4, but the v4c has that part changed.  I'll confirm later...
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: dolabra on September 20, 2012, 06:01:46 am
I would not trust the bom I put together.  I know there are mistakes.  I did it mostly for pricing, and I didn't look at the design files to do it, only the wiki pages.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 20, 2012, 01:37:49 pm
It looks like many of you who requested boards made forum accounts just to PM me.  That's wonderful, but it looks like if you don't actually post within 24-hours the anti-spam measures will delete your account.  I'll be placing the order later today, and soon I will post my list of who wants what, when I do that, please confirm (and post!) so your account will persist.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on September 20, 2012, 01:41:06 pm
ok. ;)
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: Thorontir on September 20, 2012, 08:12:54 pm
[quote author="schazamp"]It looks like many of you who requested boards made forum accounts just to PM me.  That's wonderful, but it looks like if you don't actually post within 24-hours the anti-spam measures will delete your account.  I'll be placing the order later today, and soon I will post my list of who wants what, when I do that, please confirm (and post!) so your account will persist.[/quote]

I told you before, but... I am interested, and since I am in Europe (And so I may not see your post until it's too late) please count me in ;) I suppose you have the pm, but I wanted 2 boards.

Thanks again :)
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 20, 2012, 08:25:44 pm
Here's who I've got so far:

Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: neslekkim on September 20, 2012, 08:37:27 pm
just to confirm, correct for me.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: gmtii on September 20, 2012, 08:44:04 pm
I'm in for one...

thanks!

...padding text for antispam ...
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on September 20, 2012, 09:40:50 pm
me, me, me, I have already PM you
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: sph on September 21, 2012, 02:10:24 am
Yep, two boards is correct for me.

Thanks schazamp!
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 21, 2012, 02:17:00 am
[quote author="systemstech"][quote author="schazamp"]The DP logo does not rotate well, either doing it within Eagle before running the CAM processor, or afterwards by gerbmerge.  (or it's a bug with GerberLogix, but I'm not holding by breath for that).  If it will kill you to have a board with a sorry-looking logo on the back, then let me know, and I'll try to send you one of the nicer-looking ones.[/quote]

I was able to process the gerbers with veiwmate and this is the output.
(http://http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8030/8003265867_a891deb944.jpg) (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/79192364@N07/8003265867/)
Bus Pirate v4c (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/79192364@N07/8003265867/) by systems tech (http://http://www.flickr.com/people/79192364@N07/), on Flickr

It looks like veiwmate hasn't messed up the logo.

Ernie[/quote]

Ernie,

Thanks for doing this.  Can you tell me what you had to do?  My hunch is that it's a problem with asymmetrical apertures not being rotated/converted properly, but I'll have to look into it later.

Can I ask one more favor?  My python script can't parse these gerbers to add the Seeed studio order number text.  Could you please add the text "Seeed Fusion Order #59669" somewhere in the empty space in the middle?  It doesn't have to be on one line.

After that, I can submit the gerbers to the factory (I've already placed the order).
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: systemstech on September 21, 2012, 04:41:04 am
schazamp,
As requested.

(http://http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8174/8007967553_694db9d850.jpg) (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/79192364@N07/8007967553/)
Bus Pirate v4c1 (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/79192364@N07/8007967553/) by systems tech (http://http://www.flickr.com/people/79192364@N07/), on Flickr

Good luck, can't wait to see them fabbed.

Ernie
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: b3niup on September 21, 2012, 10:52:43 am
I'll take just one board.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: systemstech on September 21, 2012, 02:17:21 pm
Board with outline.

(http://http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8446/8008884120_40bbd73061.jpg) (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/79192364@N07/8008884120/)
Bus Pirate v4c (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/79192364@N07/8008884120/) by systems tech (http://http://www.flickr.com/people/79192364@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 21, 2012, 02:38:59 pm
Thank you!

I have submitted the order.  I will let everyone know when the boards arrive.

I am still trying to figure out the part order thing, I'll be contacting individually those who expressed interest.

If you just want the PCB(s), please paypal $4 each to sales@spaceagerobotics.com.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: gregio on September 21, 2012, 10:32:30 pm
hi  i have same problem,woul you resnd me pm again?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: neslekkim on September 24, 2012, 07:31:07 pm
lot of discussions going on on the blog post...

I think we should move it back here, and agree with the others that it's no problem paying the delta for this miscalculation, but it would be interresting to hear what you calculated and what it ended to. I'm planning to create some pcb's for my first time, and are not quite sure about how things costs and turns out, it seems cheap when playing with the price calculator at Seed's site, but it seems too cheap if I can get 10 boards of 10x10cm for only $24.90 (2 layers, thinnest board, no extra color, standard surface, no etest etc, I'm going to mold these inside some resin if everything works out)
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on September 24, 2012, 07:45:34 pm
Hi schazamp, before i make my payment, I want to know if you confirm the 4 dollar price or you have to make a correction.
Wait for your answer.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 24, 2012, 07:58:25 pm
The total for 10 count 100x100cm PCBs with red soldermask and 100% e-test is $45.  Shipping would normally be $5 to $10, but I picked up $5 worth of stuff I wanted anyway to get the free shipping for orders > $50.

Out of that, I can cut 40 BPv4 boards on my band saw, which yield a cost-per-board of $1.13.  Add about $1 of shipping, and the cost is $2.13 each.  At a price of $4, that leaves a 'profit' per board of $1.87.  So I'm not cash-out-of-pocket on this operation.  But I'll have to cut 40 boards apart, and clean up the edges, and that will take a couple of hours, esp. if I try to round all the corners.  I'll probably mess up a few of them -- the cuts on this one are trickier than usual, since I can't just go all the way from one side of the board to the other, since they're all kind of overlapping.  Plus I have to get all the shipping together, and go to the post office to send the stuff internationally, sent to a bunch of different folks with different address formats and with unhelpful postal clerks.

So I'm not cash-out-of-pocket, and there isn't a shortfall, but next time I'll probably ask for $5 instead of $4, to be a sufficient inducement to cover the time involved, and I'll probably just order the boards and hawk any extras, rather than trying to arrange a pre-order group buy.

Since this is an act of community participation, and not a profit-making venture, I am not at all sore about it (I could always have just cancelled the order before collecting any money for the boards).  But I'll think twice about it next time.  Ian's blog analysis about selling boards in the PCB store was spot-on -- it ultimately isn't the price-per-pcb that drives the feasibility of an operation like this.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: Thorontir on September 24, 2012, 08:23:11 pm
Schazamp, I have no trouble paying $5 for board. Still a big favour for me. Cutting all those boards, well, it's a hell of work, at least for me. I did something similar, cutting the boards with a Dremel, and being way less boards and I ended... well, I have no idea of how to say it in english, but it is not pretty ;) So, as I said, have no trouble with it, just put the price you think it's ok.

 I understand if other folks think different, but as I said, that seems reasonable for me.

 (Also I was unaware of the comments in the blog until now. Going now)
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 24, 2012, 08:56:21 pm
I have offered the boards for $4 each, and I will not retract that offer.  But if anyone wishes to pay more, then feel free.  Thank you, I appreciate it.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: pjkim on September 25, 2012, 09:31:17 pm
I sent in a payment and a delta for two boards. Please consider just cutting and shipping without sanding of edges. Smoothing the edges and rounding the corners is something that can be "crowd sourced" to the end user.

This is for partially selfish reasons-- I would hate for you to spend hours doing this and thinking the whole time that you will never do this again. I want this to be a positive experience for all parties.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on September 25, 2012, 09:46:54 pm
Yes, I'm thinking I'll skip rounding the corners, I'm still not even sure I'll be able to get good results.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on October 03, 2012, 02:50:34 am
Sorry it took so long for an update.  Here's the latest:

* After submitting the PCB order to Seeed, the status is still 'in production', which, after about 10 days, is longer than usual.  I'll wait a few more days, and then email them to ask what's up.  The Maker Faire stuff may have been a disruption.

* I looked at putting together a parts order, and it's just more complex than I can handle right now, so I'm afraid I won't be able to do it.

I will post when the boards come in, and will let you each know individually when I have shipped your board.  There are a few preorders who haven't paid, probably waiting on the word on the part order.  I'll post a list of those remaining in a day or two.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on October 03, 2012, 12:36:22 pm
It's a national holiday on china. Logistics at seeed will be closed until 7 october.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on October 10, 2012, 03:36:12 pm
Any news?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: Marv on October 12, 2012, 05:37:57 pm
Hey guys, hey schazamp

do you still have any spare PCBs left? If so, I would gladly take 2 and would appreciate if you'd contact me via PM

Thanks for all the work you put into this!
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on October 12, 2012, 07:05:46 pm
I have sent an inquiry to Seeed, I am hoping they can give me some sense of what the production backlog is and when they might be able to ship.  I will post when I have any information.

I have about 8 PCBs left.  They are still available, for $5 each.  Please PM me to reserve.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ian on October 13, 2012, 10:17:43 am
I bet it is the holiday. They were closed for 1 week, but many factories close for 2 weeks for the major yearly holiday (traditionally, I read the .cn govt is trying to undo this to increase harmony with other countries schedules) . It is when many Western Chinese workers make a yearly trip from cities to visit family in the country. It has been called the biggest migration of humans on the planet, there's movies about it and stuff.

All this is just to say: first two weeks of October in China? Things are moving REAL slow. Two weeks of Christmas day slow. We just ignore it and concentrate on development in October now :) You'll see a flood of new DP stuff when Seeed gets back and backlogs are cleared.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on October 14, 2012, 09:23:25 pm
They said the order was done, and so I expect it to be shipping soon.  I'm glad I asked, though, because another order I had made later had been lost.

Thanks for explaining that, Ian.  I knew the holiday was a disruption, but I didn't know how severe, and for some reason I missed the announcement (because I forgot when it was). 

Just poor timing for the order.  I'll send out a notice when the boards arrive.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on October 17, 2012, 12:06:00 am
I've just been informed the order has shipped with tracking number: RT150887095HK, though I seldom find those numbers actually useful for much.

According to my records, the following users have reserved a PCB or two, but have yet to pay.  If you have paid, but your name is on the list, it's because I have no foolproof way of correlating your real name with your forum username, so please PM me and help me make the connection.

* gregio - 1 pcb
* iggarpe - 1 pcb
* papo - 1 pcb
* rledyard - 2 pcbs
* werejag - 2 pcbs
* mati - 1 pcb
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on October 31, 2012, 02:36:34 pm
any news?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on October 31, 2012, 02:40:01 pm
Well, the tracking page says "notice left" as of a few days ago.  But I never got a notice.  I've had trouble before with packages just never getting delivered : (.  So I'll try and catch the mail carrier today and see what's up, I may have to go to the central post office to pick it up.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on November 02, 2012, 11:28:54 pm
After trying to get the straight story out of my mail carrier several days in a row, I gave up today and tracked down the package, and went to the post office where they were holding it.

To my dismay, upon opening the package, I found that the boards were green instead of the red that we I ordered (and paid extra for).  One mess on top of another.  I am contacting Seeed to see what they are willing to do about it.  Maybe they will offer to re-do the order in red, but I don't assume want to assume that anyone would rather wait another month, just to get a red board.  Maybe they will offer some kind of refund.

While I wait to hear from them, I will cut up the green boards I have and prepare to ship them.  They should be able to go out by early next week.  I will PM anyone whose address I still need.

I will more post when I hear from Seeed.  I can probably offer a couple bucks refund to anyone who is heartbroken about receiving a green board (or anyone who chipped in some extra to cover the extra cost).
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on November 02, 2012, 11:41:07 pm
can you post pictures of the boards when you have time. Thanks again
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on November 03, 2012, 04:00:21 am
Here are the boards (thanks, crappy camera phone) and the Seeed order.  More pics after I cut them.

[attachment=1]

[attachment=0]
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: JerrySchull on November 03, 2012, 12:40:34 pm
[quote author="arakis"]
Great work, although there already is a dp6037 BP v4 available in our SVN. the v4c is on a sick of beige board. And it should be coming when the next batch of BP v4s comes out. There will also be a case design to go along with it.[/quote]

So am I understanding that the next manufactured batch (available at seeed studio?) will be the 4c version?  And there will be a SoB case also?  How about the probes?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: arupbsk on November 03, 2012, 02:25:59 pm
@schazamp
Did you order red pcbs and got green ones?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on November 03, 2012, 06:42:18 pm
Look great.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: systemstech on November 03, 2012, 07:33:01 pm
No worries, it looks like a street sign instead of a stop sign. :p
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on November 04, 2012, 04:19:32 pm
Here are the separated boards, and also a special commemorative plaque, which will go to some randomly selected lucky recipients.

I'm still waiting to here from Seeed (though I guess I do have a ticket open now).

If green is okay, please PM me to confirm, and please include your address, to make it easier to keep track of.  I'll put them in the post on Monday.  Please *don't* put this info in the thread, it's too hard to keep track of that way.

I'll send out an additional reminder by PM for those who did not ever actually post to this thread (and who therefore won't get the 'thread updated' email).

Thanks for sticking with me through all of this, what a learning experience it has been.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: matseng on November 04, 2012, 04:30:13 pm
I hope that it was you that  put that bigass order number on the silk and not Seeed...  :-)  Did they put their regular small # on the board as well or did they accept yours?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: systemstech on November 04, 2012, 06:58:51 pm
That was me that put the bigass #s, but I put it in the empty space(off board).
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on November 04, 2012, 07:28:28 pm
Yeah, systemstech put it on at my request.  I didn't see anything from Seeed, but it's hard to check after I've cut all the boards, I'd have to look at 3/4 + 1 of them to confirm.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: Sjaak on November 04, 2012, 07:54:53 pm
BTW seeed is experiencing trouble with the fusion pcb service:

Quote
Dear Customers,
Extremely sorry for our terrible service on Fusion PCB since October. The colleague responsible on this took leave of sudden issue, we are picking up the gears in a rash which caused such super long delays.
A task force is working crazy to respond current situation, all stacked orders will be transacted FIFO. We will regain the service quality soon and improve the shopping experience much further. Excuse us for the extreme inconvenience! All orders delaying too long should receive a fusion PCB coupon. Thank you so much for the patience and understanding!
- Eric Pan, Founder and CEO of Seeed
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: systemstech on November 04, 2012, 08:43:54 pm
I placed  Order Number: 60849 Order Date: Sunday 07 October, 2012. I've received emails :

Code: [Select]
On 10/29/2012 4:59 AM, jianye.huang@seeedstudio.com wrote:
> > Hi there, we are still can't lead your file. Please send your initial file.
> > We will exchange it into Gerber.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > _______________
> > -jaye
> > Seeed Studio

They say that they can't read the gerbers but they were able to read schazamp's gerbers and the ones I sent the week before so I don't know what the problem is with them.

Code: [Select]
Subject:
Re: ??: PCB file for order D60849
From:
systemstech
Date:
10/29/2012 8:33 AM
To:
jianye.huang@seeedstudio.com

Hi there, here are the eagle 6.3 files for this pcb.

Thanks
Ernie

so maybe I'll get a fusion PCB coupon. We'll see.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on November 04, 2012, 11:19:29 pm
That explains a lot, I had figured it was just the holiday.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on November 06, 2012, 12:35:35 am
The first transport, as they say, is away.

I had 8 of these awesome envelopes left from 1996.  So the first 8 lucky, lucky folks will have their PCBs delivered in style.  The rest will just be delivered.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ian on November 06, 2012, 12:19:54 pm
Quote
So am I understanding that the next manufactured batch (available at seeed studio?) will be the 4c version? And there will be a SoB case also? How about the probes?


No, please don't assume any of that. V4 is still highly beta with absolutely no ETA.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: dolabra on November 08, 2012, 12:52:55 am
Thanks schazamp,

Mine came today.  Also thanks for the cool envelope, that was a nice surprise.


The first thing I did was run down the bench grinder and round the corners, no problems with that operations at all.

The board looks great.  There are a lot of parts on this board; It will be a fun project.  I started a Digikey order for parts, I'll have to double check and hit send now.

Thanks again (and thank you Ian for all the great work you do)
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: Thorontir on November 08, 2012, 08:52:06 am
I am going to buy the parts at Farnell (For this and for some other projects, it's going to be a big list...), does anyone has done a cart list for farnell with the BOM of BPv4?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on November 08, 2012, 12:54:27 pm
I just wrapped it up with Seeed -- they're going to redo the order in red.  Since I'll have another pile of boards in a month, I'll offer to send red ones to anyone who was part of the original order for $2 each, to cover shipping.  And since ill probably still have extras, for $5 each to anyone else, and any that remain will eventually make it to the pcb drawer, if Ian will have them.

If you said you wanted to hold out for red, then I've already got you.  Otherwise, please PM.  I wont accept payment until I have the boards in hand; I've already learned my lesson about that.

And thanks for the pic, dolabra, I'm glad it arrived okay.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: neslekkim on November 08, 2012, 02:47:44 pm
ah, that will be cool, will look better togehter with the displayadapter which is red :)
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: systemstech on November 10, 2012, 04:15:57 pm
The PCB came in on Thursday just got a chance to open it.

(http://http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8337/8172170586_9134afa3a9.jpg) (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/79192364@N07/8172170586/)
IMG_4530 (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/79192364@N07/8172170586/) by systems tech (http://http://www.flickr.com/people/79192364@N07/), on Flickr

(http://http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8070/8172170648_b692296e96.jpg) (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/79192364@N07/8172170648/)
IMG_4529 (http://http://www.flickr.com/photos/79192364@N07/8172170648/) by systems tech (http://http://www.flickr.com/people/79192364@N07/), on Flickr

Thanks schazamp good packaging. One of these is going to "That Crazy Aussie Bloke" as soon as I get all the parts in.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: mati on November 12, 2012, 05:58:20 pm
Hi,

I just received my boards - thanks schazamp! I was also among the 8 lucky ones and got my boards in this vintage envelope :)

(http://http://imageshack.us/a/img507/693/73387872.th.jpg) (http://http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/507/73387872.jpg/)


PS. I think I will ask you for the red ones also to give them to some friends.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on November 12, 2012, 06:12:25 pm
are you in the US mati?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: neslekkim on November 12, 2012, 06:13:28 pm
Wow, mine came today, and the other day I got the pcb's for the display adapter, I guess I need to sign up for the red ones, so they match the display-adapter pcbs:
[attachment=1]
[attachment=0]
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: mati on November 12, 2012, 07:08:23 pm
[quote author="ginpb"]are you in the US mati?[/quote]

no, Central Europe ;)
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on November 12, 2012, 07:17:56 pm
Great, are already in europe
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: neslekkim on November 12, 2012, 07:20:24 pm
Yes, and I'm in Norway, got them today.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: Thorontir on November 13, 2012, 07:48:36 pm
Received today here in Spain. Thanks again, schazamp!
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: sph on November 14, 2012, 10:48:50 am
Yep, just received mine in New Zealand. Cheers schazamp. :-)

Greetings from Christchurch,
Sebastian
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: gmtii on November 15, 2012, 11:27:27 pm
Recevied mine in good shape in Canary Islands, Spain.

Thank you very much Schazamp! :-D
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: b3niup on November 18, 2012, 11:52:51 am
Got it in Poland :)
Probably was waiting few days because of my absence at first delivery try, so it was here really fast.

I know that I'm thanking You tenth time or so, but You deserve it, so once again (and last in this subject): thanks for Your effort! :)
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on November 19, 2012, 12:19:37 pm
Nothing yet, did you shipped all the boards the same day?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: papo on November 21, 2012, 06:02:56 pm
Thank you schazamp!

The PCBs arrived two weeks ago, just a few days after I made the payment. The letter was lying around until tonight at beer-time:

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It passes the self-test (beware that you only have to connect one jumper as stated in the on-screen message) but I have not played around with it any further. Thanks again!
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ginpb on November 28, 2012, 10:38:42 am
Unfortunately the board got lost in the mail, so can you tell me when the red ones arrive.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on November 29, 2012, 02:28:23 am
The red boards have finally arrived, and I've cut them apart.  Here are some crummy phone pics:
[attachment=1]
[attachment=0]

I still have some extras available, and like I said before, I'll make them available to anyone who was a part of the original order for $2/each to cover shipping.  Anyone else can have them for $5/each.  Please paypal sales@spaceagerobotics.com.

If you've already told me you wanted red ones, I've PMed you about that.

I have some green ones too, if for some reason you prefer those.

Any that I have left at the end will probably go to Ian for the PCB drawer (if he'll have them), since there's no way I need 20 bus pirates, as awesome as they are.

I'll post again if I am close to running out.

Thanks to everyone who was a part of this order, and thanks especially to those who posted pics.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: b3niup on December 14, 2012, 04:23:37 pm
Thanks once again, schazamp!
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on December 14, 2012, 04:52:15 pm
I still have a bunch of these left if anyone else is interested.  There were a few folks who reserved boards and then decided not to get them after all.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: Thorontir on December 15, 2012, 01:25:17 am
I am one of those, completely forgot about it! So many things to do those days...

I think I said I would take 2...
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: presslab on December 17, 2012, 02:04:51 am
I built mine, they look really great.  Thanks again schazamp.  Now I am just waiting for my SoB panels to arrive.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: neslekkim on December 17, 2012, 01:32:40 pm
I got my reds one the other day too, need to grind them just a bit now.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ian on December 22, 2012, 07:04:40 pm
way to go everyone, I love these DIY Bus Pirates!
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: Hardwyre on December 26, 2012, 03:24:51 am
I am going to send you the $5 for the red BP4 pcb.  If you have them in stock, great, if not, consider it a little gift for busting your butt to make something for the community.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: Hardwyre on December 26, 2012, 03:28:22 am
Quote
Jason, you have sent $5.00 USD to Andrew Schamp.

:)
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on December 26, 2012, 04:33:10 am
Got it, thanks, will ship as soon as I can after the holiday.

Still have plenty left, both red and green.  How festive!  Spend your extra holiday money!
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: Hardwyre on December 26, 2012, 05:17:57 am
No worries.  Thank you!  Is there an updated and accurate BOM available?  A digikey or mouser pre-loaded cart would be excellent.  :)
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ibelimb on January 01, 2013, 06:06:24 pm
Andrew,

I sent you $10 for two boards, I hope you still have some left!
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: presslab on January 03, 2013, 06:35:50 pm
I got my SoB panels and finished it up, with my custom ribbon cable.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on January 03, 2013, 06:39:43 pm
[quote author="ibelimb"]Andrew,

I sent you $10 for two boards, I hope you still have some left![/quote]

Shipped yesterday, still have plenty left.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: ibelimb on January 03, 2013, 07:05:53 pm
[quote author="Hardwyre"]No worries.  Thank you!  Is there an updated and accurate BOM available?  A digikey or mouser pre-loaded cart would be excellent.  :)[/quote]

I took the parts list from http://http://dangerousprototypes.com/docs/Bus_Pirate_v4_design_overview#Partslist and modified it because the 3.3v Lod Drop Out Regulator was now discontinued. I replaced it with what should hopefully be a compatible component from TI. The cart I ordered can be seen here: http://https://www.mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=a28a3b94d2. Although I take no responsibility for it's accuracy. I will update and let you know when I get my boards in and assembled.

EDIT: BoM now has everything you need, and can be used to build a BP4.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: panzer on February 04, 2013, 12:12:23 am
Hi,

are there any PCBs left? If not, will there be another order soon?

I'm interested in getting one (I'm colour agnostic and don't care if the corners are not rounded).

Cheers,
Panzer
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on February 04, 2013, 01:26:18 am
Still have plenty left, both colors.  Please paypal $5 each to sales@spaceagerobotics.com and let me know which colors.  I'll post when they're gone.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on February 05, 2013, 12:10:11 am
Because of the ongoing trickle of interest, I posted the remaining PCBs as items in the Space Age Robotics store ( http://spaceagerobotics.com/blog/store/ ... ort=normal (http://spaceagerobotics.com/blog/store/#!/~/category/id=2803499&offset=0&sort=normal) ).  The store supports PayPal and Google Checkout, and will help me track orders through shipping. 

If you are interested in getting one of the remaining PCBs, please place an order there, it will track quantity until they are gone.  The price remains the same $5 each, free shipping.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: jayb1239 on February 05, 2013, 12:15:54 am
Did you manage to post out my order schazamp? Sorry if I missed any PM's from you, I only created an account last week to message you and order, but didnt realise that if I failed to post within 24 hours then my account would be removed by the spam filters. So I have had to re-create my account.

Thanks
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: panzer on February 05, 2013, 12:25:32 am
Andrew,

in the name of us from strange lands where there's no PayPal (but with Google Checkout), thanks again. Order placed.


Cheers,
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: schazamp on February 05, 2013, 12:46:03 am
[quote author="jayb1239"]Did you manage to post out my order schazamp? Sorry if I missed any PM's from you, I only created an account last week to message you and order, but didnt realise that if I failed to post within 24 hours then my account would be removed by the spam filters. So I have had to re-create my account.

Thanks[/quote]

Yes, I believe I did, last Wednesday (Jan 29).  A number of folks have been caught by that forum rule, I guess it's easy to overlook when you sign up.

If you haven't received them in a week or two, let me know, and I'll send more.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: neslekkim on February 05, 2013, 09:47:05 am
Do anyone know how important it is to use that exact crystal that was in the bom?, Mouser seems to hold my order since they didn't get that crystal yet.
The DP partlist lists three 12Mhz crystals with the same package size, i guess I can use any of those?

What does it matter if it is 30ppm vs 20ppm?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: arakis on February 05, 2013, 10:33:06 am
30ppm is OK, any 12MHZ crystal that will fit on the pads is fine, as long as you also change the load capacitance to fit the new crystal, (probably won't have to do that, but caps are so cheap, so why not)
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: pjkim on May 05, 2013, 09:24:09 am
Does anyone have a source for the keyed 12 pin IDC socket and matching connector?
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: neslekkim on May 05, 2013, 10:29:21 am
I found some on ebay:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3482&start=30#p46333 (http://dangerousprototypes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3482&start=30#p46333)

And there are lots of other sources in that thread also.
Title: Re: BusPirate 4v2 - Sick of Beige
Post by: TomKeddie on July 04, 2013, 03:18:08 pm
Finally completed my build of this design.  Thanks for the PCB.

(http://http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3733/9208993432_fef1f99c1f_c.jpg)