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General Category => General discussion => Topic started by: erdabyz on August 28, 2011, 06:44:50 pm

Title: New way of glitch-hacking the XBOX360 requires XC2C64A board
Post by: erdabyz on August 28, 2011, 06:44:50 pm
Looks like the haxxors have fund a method for hacking the XBOX360 via glitching. They slow down the CPU and send a slower than required reset pulse. Then, about 25% of the times it glitches and loads a modified bootloader which gives access to the system and lets it load unsigned code.

Info here:
http://www.logic-sunrise.com/forums/top ... -tutorial/ (http://www.logic-sunrise.com/forums/topic/35481-en-reset-glitch-hack-tutorial/)

The glitch generation requires fast programable logic, and they suggest using the digilent C-MOD which uses the XC2C64 CPLD. Every hacked XBOX needs one ofthose CPLD boards permanently attached, so there are millions of potential customers out there (the hack seems to be unpatchable in the future my Microsoft)

The XC2C64 board from dangerous prototypes would be totally compatible for using this hack. I know that this place is more about making new open hardware than about opening closed hardware, but maybe you could promote your boards out there. They'd be a total best seller, for sure. On the other hand, the forum would be filled with the worst class of noobs (those who don't want to learn and just want quick answers for already solved problems) and it would also affect the reputation of the site.

I'm not sure if I want this forum to become a nest of console hacking kiddies asking why their board doesn't work while showing a picture of the problematic board with a drilled hole in the centre of the CPLD which they made because someone told them that it'd make the CPLD go faster.....

What do you think?
Title: Re: New way of glitch-hacking the XBOX360 requires XC2C64A b
Post by: Sjaak on August 28, 2011, 09:42:06 pm
The free advertisement would be great, but i don't think we have the manpower (or even the will) to help lame noobs here in the forums.. However most of the steps are detailed on their website so i don't think lots of questions will end up here. I don't think the cpld board would. Also think that hardcore modder (those people that do modding for a living) can benefit from our busblaster or buspirate for reading the spi rom and programming the cplds.

I guess our products are just like ducttape, we have a light and a darkside.. :D
Title: Re: New way of glitch-hacking the XBOX360 requires XC2C64A b
Post by: sqkybeaver on August 29, 2011, 01:41:38 am
[quote author="erdabyz"]asking why their board doesn't work while showing a picture of the problematic board with a drilled hole in the centre of the CPLD which they made because someone told them that it'd make the CPLD go faster.....
[/quote]

I want the link to this, if someone has actually done this!
Title: Re: New way of glitch-hacking the XBOX360 requires XC2C64A b
Post by: tayken on August 29, 2011, 04:06:13 am
[quote author="sqkybeaver"][quote author="erdabyz"]asking why their board doesn't work while showing a picture of the problematic board with a drilled hole in the centre of the CPLD which they made because someone told them that it'd make the CPLD go faster.....
[/quote]

I want the link to this, if someone has actually done this![/quote]
I second! :D
Title: Re: New way of glitch-hacking the XBOX360 requires XC2C64A b
Post by: erdabyz on August 29, 2011, 12:01:16 pm
[quote author="sqkybeaver"][quote author="erdabyz"]asking why their board doesn't work while showing a picture of the problematic board with a drilled hole in the centre of the CPLD which they made because someone told them that it'd make the CPLD go faster.....
[/quote]

I want the link to this, if someone has actually done this![/quote]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVV_COOey0E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVV_COOey0E)

You know, speed holes.
Title: Re: New way of glitch-hacking the XBOX360 requires XC2C64A b
Post by: Sjaak on August 29, 2011, 12:45:36 pm
Isn't that dangerous? I think the magic electronic smoke can escape when you drill a hole into a chip.. Please post a step-by-step howto! or at least a drillplan..!

:D
Title: Re: New way of glitch-hacking the XBOX360 requires XC2C64A b
Post by: sqkybeaver on August 29, 2011, 01:57:36 pm
it must be done in a high pressure, halogen environment to prevent smoke loss. and epoxy the exposed die to prevent oxidation.
Title: Re: New way of glitch-hacking the XBOX360 requires XC2C64A b
Post by: tayken on August 29, 2011, 02:19:10 pm
[quote author="Sjaak"]Isn't that dangerous? I think the magic electronic smoke can escape when you drill a hole into a chip.. Please post a step-by-step howto! or at least a drillplan..!

:D[/quote]
Sparkfun was selling a device for putting the magic smoke back into the device, that might come in handy :P
Title: Re: New way of glitch-hacking the XBOX360 requires XC2C64A b
Post by: sqkybeaver on August 29, 2011, 02:32:45 pm
this thread has gone quite a bit off topic, hope nobody takes us seriously.

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