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Other projects => Past projects => Web platform => Topic started by: Eric on November 08, 2010, 01:18:21 am

Title: Web Platforms sold on the Black Market
Post by: Eric on November 08, 2010, 01:18:21 am
Well, not really the black market, more like the gray market.  I came across someone selling Web Platforms on eBay (http://http://cgi.ebay.com/PIC-dsPIC33-Web-Platform-dsPIC-33FJ128GP204-/120642772592) from Hong Kong.  I didn't realize there was that much of a market for these things that someone could make money selling them on eBay.

-Eric
Title: Re: Web Platforms sold on the Black Market
Post by: tayken on November 08, 2010, 06:17:35 am
And with direct links to Dangerous Prototypes. But the seller doesn't mention this site in anywhere else!

Edit: I found more, he also sells 3EEPROM board (http://http://cgi.ebay.com/Bus-Pirate-3EEPROM-Explorer-Board-/120642772768?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c16de9f20) and Bus Pirate with 3 EEPROM &LCD PCB (http://http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-Bus-Pirate-I2C-SPI-JTAG-Converter-Analyser-Free-PCB-/120642772399?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c16de9daf)
Title: Re: Web Platforms sold on the Black Market
Post by: MichaelZ on November 08, 2010, 06:21:39 am
EBay board is green, Seeed board is red.  Could these be prototypes that escaped?  Also price is $40+$8 shipping.  Seeed price is $37.15 plus shipping.
Title: Re: Web Platforms sold on the Black Market
Post by: IPenguin on November 08, 2010, 07:19:34 am
Interesting - it's the old PCB Ver. 1c of the web platform - same person is selling:

- Bus Pirate v3a (http://http://cgi.ebay.com/Bus-Pirate-Universal-Interface-v3-Free-PCB-USB-Cable_W0QQitemZ120642772261QQihZ002QQcategoryZ11175QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
- Bus Pirate 3EEPROM Explorer Board (http://http://cgi.ebay.com/Bus-Pirate-3EEPROM-Explorer-Board-/120642772768?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c16de9f20)

  and

- Maple IDE STM32 Cortex M3 STM32F103RB Board r2 v25 (old PCB version - green PCB) (http://http://cgi.ebay.com/Maple-IDE-STM32-Cortex-M3-STM32F103RB-Board-r2-v25-/120642772914?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c16de9fb2)

I doubt they are "escaped prototypes". Looks more like someone may have started this around May/June 2010 when the new PCB designs were not available, yet.
Title: Re: Web Platforms sold on the Black Market
Post by: ian on November 08, 2010, 09:05:27 am
I know this eBay seller, I've talked to them on various occasions.  It is not Seeed, rather someone hand soldering boards and selling them. I don't have any problem with it, and it hasn't been a big source of support issues. DP doesn't have a sales tax license cause it would be a pain in the neck, so we can't sell on eBay ourselves, this is like free publicity :)

They appear to only have old stuff (must not be a huge seller). The Bus Pirate LCD board is super old, and won't even work with the current firmware (we never produced that board, so I don't feel inclined to include backwards support).
Title: Re: Web Platforms sold on the Black Market
Post by: MichaelZ on November 08, 2010, 01:28:29 pm
I dont fault anyone trying to make a few bucks if they are honest.  Only concern would be a buyer coming back to DP with "this dont work" issues.  If you will notice the no return policy.
Title: Re: Web Platforms sold on the Black Market
Post by: ian on November 08, 2010, 03:30:28 pm
Ah, if they're polite I don't mind ;) If we give fantastic support, they might buy some of our other stuff. 

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