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Tools of the trade / Re: SMALLSMT.BIZ we are selling our VP-2X00D machines now!
Hi Michael,

The VP2500D looks like a machine we could use to replace the TM240A. Do you have other users writing about their experiences? I know its a fairly new machine but hearing from other users kinda makes purchase decisions easier.

Component height of 12mm makes this a good upgrade from the TM240, not to mention the vision feature.

You mentioned you will have a 4 head system soon, not that I would need it but is it something pretty close to completion?

Will definitely follow this thread for updates.

Thanks

Royco
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Tools of the trade / Re: VisionBot - a European Union SMT Pick and Place machine
Hi Alexandru,

What is the maximum height of the component the machine can pick up? I might have missed it in the previous post.

Currently using a TM240 and the 3mm max component height is starting to be a hassle.

Are these machines built to order or are there units in stock?

Thanks
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Tools of the trade / Re: High speed Pick & Place for $3600
I have a TM240 machine that I have not used much since moving production overseas. If anyone is interested in buying please PM me. Pick up only in Southern California. I really wanted to have in house pick and place but I dont get to use it really so it's basically new.

Not sure if I can post this here, feel free to remove if inappropriate.
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Tools of the trade / Re: Making Chassis Overlays with a Cameo
This is my base material.
http://http://www.texascraft.com/hps/product.php?productid=17514&cat=249&page=1

The white glossy polycarbonate base material for laser is also nice.

The enclosure is hammond FL 1551 series. Very easy to use as you can sandwich the PCB in between the top and bottom covers and still use the screws that come with the enclosure( just make a hole on the PCB big enough for the screw post). It has a good range of sizes to choose from.
http://http://www.hammondmfg.com/dwg9FL.htm
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Tools of the trade / Re: Making Chassis Overlays with a Cameo
Instead of using a second sheet for thickness I use a clear laminate to protect the print and give it a more professional finish. It is also a very cool solution for LED holes by cutting the base material but leaving the clear overlay uncut so it has a diffused look when the LED turns on. It also makes the print appear deeper/more saturated.

One tip though, when laying down the clear laminate try not to cover the registration marks, the cutter's vision will have hard time finding them.

There are a couple of choices for the clear laminate overlays.
http://http://www.texascraft.com/hps/home.php?cat=261

Here's one of my older overlays using the Silhouette SD with printable vinyl and clear matte laminate.

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Tools of the trade / Re: Cutting mylar stencils with a silohuette cameo
I cut all my stencils for prototypes using my Silhouette SD, its an older machine that comes with replaceable needle caps to adjust cutting thickness. The settings I have that work perfectly (and I mean super clean cuts on kapton sheets from Mcmaster) are  SPEED: 3 , THICKNESS: 14 and BLADE CAP: Yellow (middle). These are on Silhouette studio. I export dxf from diptrace, fix/adjust it on inkscape or coreldraw and open up the DXF in silhouette studio.

I also have a Cameo but have not successfully converted those settings into the newer adjustable blade that it comes with.

I think your material may be shifting while being cut and causing the slight angle. What is the thickness of the transparency film? The kapton film I use is 2 mils I think.

Here are some tips on getting it nice and clean.

1. Make sure you cutting mat is free from debris when you place your stencil sheet, I scrape it with an unused PCB to remove all of the left over cut kapton.

2. Once you placed your stencil film use another PCB or credit card to squeegee the trapped air and flatten it out. This is very important because once you have air packets in there the blade will rip closely placed cuts into one big hole.

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General discussion / Re: Turn around for SeeedStudio Fusion
They used to have a 1 day service ( was that them or Itead? ) and I could get the PCBs in 5 days. I always use fedex or DHL as the regular mail  take about 2 to 3 weeks. I think regular processing is 5 days.
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Tools of the trade / Mini wave solder machines, what's out there?
Purchasing the pick and place from the group buy has me needing one more equipment to complete the assembly. A wave solder machine for the through hole parts. Hand soldering is always an option but it can slow you down and eat up the time you saved using the PnP machine. Designing out the TH parts is out of the question.

This is a bit more complicated that I thought it would be because of power, space and fume extraction issues. I prefer to have a selective soldering instead of a regular wave solder machine so I don't need to mask when required but those are way out of my budget. Ive seen some fountain type machines that maybe I can build a motorized XY carriage to move the board around (probably not a good/feasible idea).

So what are you guys using to solder your TH parts quickly?

Here are some of what I've found. Mostly 220V.

Mini Selective wave solder, no guides/rails/motors. Could have been perfect.
http://http://www.alibaba.com/product-tp/110976714/Selective_Wave_Soldering_Machine_G353S.html

Desktop Wave solder. Might be a good candidate.
http://http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/628879607/Desk_Wave_Soldering_Machine_TB680.html

Dip Solder, looks interesting $7K yikes!
http://http://www.manncorp.com/smt/prod-262/2100T-Auto-Dip-Soldering-Machine.html

Roy
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Tools of the trade / Re: High speed Pick & Place for $3600
Thats a pretty good volume for a machine like this.

I use diptrace too and was thinking of just exporting the pick and place files and editing them in excel. Is the interface program you mentioned custom created for you or something I can acquire or create on my own?
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Tools of the trade / Re: High speed Pick & Place for $3600
I think Ian mentioned in his video review that you would need a password to change the menus, This was supplied to him by the manufacturer(at least you know it can be changed). I ordered mine in English so hopefully that's not going to be a problem I have to deal with.

Low volume production meaning? 20, 30 50 boards a day? Do you have the need to adjust parts into place often?
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Tools of the trade / Re: High speed Pick & Place for $3600
@dwayneR  - That sounds like a good idea. It'll get you up and running faster if you are trying to learn from a known working config.

For panels I think the command on the wiki defines the 0,0 (X,Y) of each board in the panel. Just a guess.

%,JointedBoardCommand,X,Y
65535,3,1,0,0,0,0,0,

Im also preparing a short script to quickly try it out. I use Diptrace so I cant use the ULP for Eagle.
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Tools of the trade / Re: High speed Pick & Place for $3600
[quote author="velias"]
I'd like to see a close up of a fully stuffed board produced by this thing.[/quote]

http://http://www.hoektronics.com/2013/01/05/meet-a-shenzhen-maker-mr-chen/

There's a close up of the board that was stuffed by the bigger TM240A machine. If you watch the video, the guy says that he needs to re-position some of the parts after placement. It isn't perfect since it has no vision but I think after a few uses and getting the hang of it, you can make it work with minor parts adjustment.

Xinort has it working well after some initial setup issues.

I cant wait to get my TM240A, hopefully by mid next week.

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