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Pirate PIC programmer / Re: How do I program a PIC with Bus Pirate?
Okay this is making allot more sense now.  Thanks!  I wanted to get into programming PIC's and was thinking about using it instead of a PIC Programmer, but am rethinking that now.

I know this is a little off topic but is this the same case for AVR?
Pirate PIC programmer / Re: How do I program a PIC with Bus Pirate?
Thanks I did know of that link.  I was just confused if the adapter was needed or if I could program without it (which it seems I can on several PIC's)  the other part that was confusing me was if you could program directly from MPLAB (or possibly an opensource solution) like you might do with the pickit 2 or 3.

What it seems like, I use MPLAB and generate a hex (from C or whatever language) and then use another program to load this hex into the PIC.  I thought I downloaded the correct program for this from the link above but whenever I launch it is just disappears instantly.

Could I be using the wrong download, I don't know if there is an IDE or something I should be using for this?  Would there happen to be a tutorial that might cover this somewhere?

Thanks for your hello, sorry about being such a noob.
Pirate PIC programmer / How do I program a PIC with Bus Pirate?
Okay first off I am new to programming PIC's and was looking at using the bus Pirate as a PIC programmer.  I have a handfull of questions that I can't seem to find the answer to.

1. can I program newer PIC's without the bus pirate pic programmer board (the extra board that sits on top)

2. Can I write code in C with MPLAB and then compile and send it to my PIC using the bus pirate?

3. If so how do I go about doing this, do I need to download drivers or something like that?

In short I want to write C code, and send it to my PIC chips with the bus pirate.  I just don't know how or even if I can.

Thanks in advance.

(I apologize if this is already addressed, I have been looking for a couple days now and can't seem to find an answer)