Hi Yury, Thanks for your attention on our latest model. As we just release this model to overseas market,many customers place order,we have run out of stock,and production line is very busy,we need 5-7 working days to assemble and calibrate new unit we have to ensure each unit work perfectly when customer receive it. If any question,pls feel free to let us know.
Do you know if Hothotsmt are the manufacturer or a reseller, just wondering why the SMT50 is considerably cheaper on Taobeo.com? Lots of different sellers have the TM220A/240A models but very few seem to sell the SMT50.....
Allan[/quote]
Hi Allan, Hope you already clear your doubts and get your pnp machine from hothotsmt,but we just want to clarify some factors here to help other customers know more well about this market.
1.There are some similar machine in China include SMT50,but NeoDen products are more popular both overseas and domestic markets.
NeoDen has 8 overseas agents now,they do a lot compare and market test before cooperate with Neoden,to ensure better local service and prompt response for local end users.And their order keep increasing every month.
2.Price different from aliexpress and taobao.
The price on aliexpress include 5% of total amount as aliexpress service charge,and include shipping.
Taobao,no service charge.And just include local shipping(within China mainland).
This is Haimi from Neoden. Glad to know there are many people interested in our pnp machine.We have sell a lot to many different overseas countries,and many customer are very happy with it and some of them are willing to share their experience with others. If you are from USA,we have find a lot reference there and you can talk with them to know more comments from end users.
Any question,you can also send e-mail to me directly or add my skype for online talk.
[quote author="Royce"]This is quite an interesting product!
Sam, if you do buy one, please let us know how it works!
Looking at the photograph, however, I see steppers and belts and other relatively mundane equipment. Every hobby PnP I have ever seen appeared to be constructed similarly but was far, far slower than this device. What's the secret sauce to such speed?[/quote]
Hi everybody here, This is Haimi from Neoden Tech Co.,Ltd .We are professional manufacturer of Desktop Automatic Pick and Place Machine TM240A&TM220A. Thank you all for kindly attention on our machine.Some of you may already got one.If need any help pls feel free to let us know.We offer after-sales service for life time. My skype:haimi2008 e-mail:haimi@neodentech.com QQ:847018245
Hi everybody here, This is Haimi from Neoden Tech Co.,Ltd .We are professional manufacturer of Desktop Automatic Pick and Place Machine TM240A&TM220A. Thank you all for kindly attention on our machine and some of you may already get one.If need any help pls feel free to let us know.We offer after-sales service for life time. My skype:haimi2008 e-mail:haimi@neodentech.com QQ:847018245
[quote author="jgramlich"]We just got our TM240A and the only problem I'm having is the needle is not lining up with the holes in my component tape reels. I see how I can change the pickup position...stack position or whatever it's called...but I cannot change the needle position. It's off about 2-3mm all down the length of the machine. Help!? :-)[/quote] hello,did you solve your problem?This is Haimi from Neoden. If need any help about operation,pls send mail to me. Or add my skype haimi2008
[quote author="prossin"]After about 1 month of use and about 100 complex pcbs mounted I can say I'm quite satisfied and I believe it worth the price, alternatives cost a lot and are not suited well for very small runs or prototypes. This is my opinion:
Pros - Mechanically well built, silent, surprisingly fast and quite precise. (read below about precision) - No needs of shop-air (professional ones need compressed air) - Lot of reels included (28 on TM240A) (on professional machines they must be purchased separately and cost a lot) - Double head for placing 90% of the components (first head for 0603 parts and the 2nd one for bigger components) The remaining components must be placed by hand. - Very few parts lost if you set-up correctly the component's height and reduce the speed a bit. - I am able to use small strips with few components if I extend it a bit with some tape (not so easy but it can be done, with other professional machines you can't) - It works as a stand alone machine, without a PC.
Cons - Software horrible. Data entry is really time consuming. - Software update not possible at all. - Board offset very difficult to set, you need to modify the offset field data inside the file without a keypad. (tip: do not change it, simply try to move slightly the board in order to compensate small offset errors, is easier and faster) - Board rotation offset compensation not possible. - Touchscreen not well calibrated with high parallax offset makes it difficult to select the right digit to modify. - No way to save the speed. You need to change at every power up (however you can define it for every component into the csv). - Effective precision lower than expected for small components due to the lack of vision compensation. Because of this, precision can't be better than position uncertainty inside the component holder. This is not due to head position imprecision but picking up uncertainty. Not an issue if components are at normal distance but check and some fixing is always needed before soldering. - Lack of computer connection need to move SD card from PC to Pick&Place every time during setup.
This is my procedure: for each board I place the first 4 or 5 components step by step while moving slightly the board in order to compensate the offset, when ok I push the start button to finish the board. I do not use the fiducial method with laser because is too slow for me and can't fix board rotation offset.
That's all, don't hesitate to ask if this is not enough! Paolo.[/quote]
Hi Paolo, Thanks for your support on our machine and share your use experience with others. Our machine may not perfect on some points as you mentioned,but worths its value and can help a lot for small and medium enterprices who engaged in SMT business.We will take your advice and try to improve it. If need any assistance from us ,pls feel free to let us know.
Thanks and best regards Haimi---Neoden Tech will support you always,we offer one year guarantee and life time after-sale service