Jack and I discussed it a while back, and I documented the change in the change log. I don't speak for Jack, but I had two motivations for the license change.
First, I copied parts from some of my previous CCTs that included SparkFun library parts. The (old) SparkFun library was NC, so until those parts are out of the design it has to be NC to comply with the SparkFun license.
Second, because I do the preorder thing with Seeed there's a delay in the hardware being available. It's embarrassing when my new projects are ready for delivery on eBay before I can deliver my first unit (last 2 Bus Pirate designs, for example), and I feel like that's unfair to the people who support my work through hardware purchases.
My current inclination for my personal projects (not necessarily this design because it's a partnership) is to initially release them as CC-BY-SA-NC, then toss them in the public domain after the initial preorder is delivered. For my projects, I'm really only concerned about the final PCB art, I don't usually place limitations on the schematic or firmware, for example. [/quote]
completely understand - i'll assume the current license is the 'final one' - but if you & jack decide otherwise please post up your decision
also, where is this mysterious changelog? all ive seen are attachments. is there a git repository i didnt see?
hey just noticed the license on the board is CC BY/SA/NC...since im pretty gungho about completely open source hardware im going to bow out of following this project - but please keep me updated when its in RC state, as its very very cool and i'll post about it on adafruit
Wow, thank you for the offer of help with assembling boards. I have wished many many times that I had a pick and place machine... I think the only thing holding us back is that Ian and I had discussed using Seeed Studio to manufacture the boards. So I think the plan was to use them for assembly for the initial boards. Having said that I would love to figure out some way to include you in this project. Maybe we can have a discussion about partnering with you as a distributor once the design is complete? Is that even something you would be interested in?
At the very least I would like to have a discussion with you about your experiences with the pick and place machine. I've been wanting to buy one for a while now, it would be great to get some advice. [/quote]
sure, adafruit could distribute or manufacture. there are some benefits to having domestic manufacture (theres also benefits for having offshore, its all tradeoffs ) - in a previous dream i started to sketch out a full set of completely open-source-hardware tools, im still doodling designs but am making progress on some. im more interested in '1 purpose' tools like a LA or scope which is why this caught my eye! of course in 2010 id also be interested in poking at the hardware/software for SUMPPUMP as well! particularly since i have little experience in such things
for p&p info, we have a pick and place wiki & forum check wiki.ladyada.net and forums.adafruit.com, we have a small but excited community. please visit, many non-machine-owners ask questions all the time.
hey im totally crashing this party! unfortunately im booked for a while and cant write any code or do much layout because of other commitments for a few months....
that said, i have a p&p so i may be able to fab boards once the design is in a 'release' state. (its best if the board only has parts on the top and they're 0603 or larger - the machine can handle 0201 but the feeders are different because of part spacing which makes it $. its not good for 'one off' fabbing because the setup time takes many hours)
i design open source hardware for a living and ive worked with a bunch of OSH designers (ybox, drawdio, tv-b-gone, etc) and we've always worked out a plan where everyone is happy. so let me know if this sounds like something you'd like me to be involved in
EDIT: crap, i should have made a new thread. can someone moderate-move this post?