Raspberry Pi – DSTAR amateur radio net

in News, R-Pi, RF by the machinegeek | 10 comments

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The Raspberry Pi /DStar amateur radio group on Facebook combines two hobbies together, The Raspberry Pi computer and D-STAR radio. The group wants you to know about their R-Pi/D-STAR amateur radio net which will be conducted most Monday Nights starting February 18th, 2013 on REF026A (Vancouver, BC Reflector). Repeaters, DVAPs and Dongles are welcome to connect. The net starts at 1900 hrs PST local time (or 0300 hrs GMT Tuesday morning.)

While D-STAR radio is still slow in gaining popularity among ham radio ops due in large part to the cost of ICOM radios, this type of net provides an example of the excellent opportunities this radio-internet connected medium can afford to techies worldwide who hold amateur radio licenses.

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  1. Darren says:

    D-STAR is an open protocol however the codec AMBE, which is used in the ICOM radios, is proprietary and patent encumbered. I’ll avoid using D-STAR for voice until there is support for something like codec2.

  2. Jeff D says:

    I couldn’t agree more. Using a closed, proprietary codec such as AMBE goes against the spirit of ham radio. Hopefully the D-STAR community will recognize the importance of an open codec and adopt codec2 as an “official” option.

  3. Drone says:

    I agree, not only is the AMBE codec a very bad choice – so are the outrageously high prices for ICOM gear. Then how about the way ICOM charges you out the ying-yang all the radio’s “options”; which are really necessities. I’ll pass on ICOM…

  4. Mike Coles says:

    There are much easier and open ways to get R-Pis on the net. Why be limited to ICOM or the AMBE chipset. I bought an 880 to play with. Huge waste of spare money. Went out and picked up OLD TNCs and 2M mobiles afterward. Packet turned out to be more resilient and flexible. Heck, pick up some wi-fi chips in you much connect your R-Pis to the net.

  5. A. karel says:

    DSTAR is great and incredibly useful. This net is just one example. The up-to-date ID-3aA ICOM transceiver is less than $300 and allows linking with thousands of pre-programmed repeaters and reflectors in many countries. Tech, and other nets are yours no matter where they are. It includes built-in GPS. Objections to DSTAR are certainly everyone’s right, but to me it’s like saying that I won’t watch TV or use the web unless I build my own TV or computer. I’m glad ICOM makes it’s DSTAR gear and enjoy it and worldwide QSO’s every day.

  6. Jerry Lueger says:

    ICOM has outrageous prices on their equipment placing it out of reach for many Hams. A Canadian company ( Mitel ) produced a codec for their digital telephone systems in the 70s placing them ahead of many designs on the market today. They may be a source of information for a project.
    73s
    Jerry
    KD7IIA

  7. A. karel says:

    What a pity…so much misunderstanding of a really wonderful ham radio experience. The ID-31 is a spectacular handheld with full DSTAR capability and excellent 440 analog for under $300. What you get is world-wide linking, clear strong audio, interesting digital capabilities like using the Raspberry Pi for portable repeater and reflector linking, ID of each transmission by callsign and message, built-in accurate GPS, immedate listing of all nearby repeaters that you can access with no programming, built-in database of ALL DSTAR repeaters and reflectors and linking without programming, access to stations by callsign, related digital apps like DRATS which let you chat worldwide with mapping of all participants and file transfer, including pictures! 50 years of being a ham, and DSTAR is by far the most interesting and dynamic medium…something new all the time. A used ID-31 will get you in if you have a nearby repeater, or a DSTAR Dongle, or DVAP which get you in via internet (with or without a DSTAR radio). So much fun.

  8. Drone says:

    @A. karel…

    There is no question the DSTAR digital connectivity concept can be a “really wonderful ham radio experience”, as you said. But it is locked-up with a closed codec and worse-yet, closed and hugely over-priced hand-held from a very limited (I think two) number of Japanese-only manufacturers.

    As for ICOM and the ID-31/A radio; and my claim that ICOM is gouging…

    Go to the Universal Radio sales page for the ICOM ID-31A:

    The ID-31A sells (after a bunch of fake discounts) for $299.99 USD.

    It comes with a low capacity (proprietary form-factor) Li-Ion battery (7.4V 1150 mAh), and a wall charger. It also comes with the P/N CS-31 software, which is Windows-only and closed-up tight, AND the software requires a proprietary ICOM (OPC-2218LU) cable to use it.

    Let’s look at the outrageous ICOM “option” prices for the ID-31…

    * BP-273, Battery Case (holds 3 x AA, not supplied)… $49.95

    Are you kidding? fifty bucks for a simple plastic AA battery holder?

    * Optional (marginally) higher capacity (1150 vs. 1880 mAh) battery:

    BP-272, $99.72

    * LC-178, Carry Case…$34.95

    Again, thirty-five bucks for a cheap plastic soft case?

    * OPC-2218LU, Low speed USB data cable… $54.95

    What!? A simple level shift cable for fifty-five bucks?

    * HM-75LS, Hand-held speaker-mic…$72.95

    * Desktop Charger (includes yet another proprietary wall-wart)… $54.95

    Add the prices for what I consider MINIMAL accessories: AA battery holder, carry case, speaker-mic, and data cable to the (already over-priced) $300 UHF-only hand held transceiver, and you are paying over $500 USD for the device :-(

    I hope you get my point about ICOM – ICOM is GREEDY. Either that or the number of licensed hams is dwindling (NOT the case). Yes the U.S. Government’s crazy printing of money to pay for out of control government spending IS hurting the value of the U.S. Dollar vs. the Japanese Yen; but not to the extent of what ICOM is charging for their radio “options”.

  9. radioguy says:

    Is D-star really that expensive compared to the amount of money lots of HAM’s spend on their hobby ?

    Agreed that you can get chinese FM radios for next to nothing, but if you go for a Kenwood or Yaesu APRS handheld with built-in GPS you also have to pay for the goodies.

    If you hate Icom radios for some reason that’s fine and it’s your choice. But then be honest about it.

    Regarding the AMBE codec it may be a bad choice, actually i think the whole protocol of D-Star is a bad choice. A packet oriented TCP/IP look-alike protocol with voice, data and short message services built on top.

    But the choice has been made, and nobody prevents Yaesu or Kenwood from buying the chips just as Icom does.

    We are beginning to see repeaters based on Raspberry Pi’s and LMR radios and also kits where you can add D-Star functionality to your FM radio at a reasonable price. Anyway a price that is reasonable if you compare it to what lots of HAM’s paid for a PK232 or simillar packet modem back in the old days.

    73 to all of you out there

  10. radioguy says:

    Oops – I ment to say: A packet oriented TCP/IP look-alike protocol with voice, data and short message services built on top would be better than D-star.

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